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Can I say something?

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Posted on November 12, 2011 at 16:33:54
An observer


 
As much grief as we all like to give Patrick, hasn't anyone ever listened to him seriously enough to notice that he is a real-life mad scientist? Through weird devotion to spending maybe millions of dollars to learn audio design by doing, he's become a top-notch (if amateurish) cable designer. I don't believe in cables beyond electrical efficiency and build quality, but I'd be willing to believe that the Forest power cable is one of the best ever designed. Once he gets a business head on his shoulders, stops the questionable marketing, improves quality control - which he's given to early adopters with a lifetime guarantee - the mad scientist/boy genius could go really good.

 

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More, posted on November 12, 2011 at 16:51:06
An observer


 
Patrick is on the right track for his power cords, but he hasn't quite figured it out yet. The tourmaline and Exeres are junk science and I imagine he's using those MLM schemes as capital to lure speculators. Patrick has designed a power cord that in theory uses an active -180-degree shield. He's all caught up in pushing gemstones and health food but once he's gotten his feet comfortably wet he can design a two-plug power cord, which electrically would satisfy even audioskeptics like me and justify the "last three feet" belief of the cablephiles in giving a power regenerator the absolute best AC power to distribute to the end load.

Most of the time a skeptic is critical, but this is one of those times you have to give the devil his due.

 

Last, posted on November 12, 2011 at 17:14:25
An observer


 
Also in his design philosophy is using semiconductor materials as active components in cables. Hats off to this guy

 

RE: Can I say something?, posted on November 12, 2011 at 19:06:12
BS64
Audiophile

Posts: 2451
Joined: July 17, 2000
 Scientist? Hardly. His "scientific explanations" are regurgitated from other websites that sell crystals and health food.

This is the guy who came to the Asylum seeking advice on how to spend 3 days in a cryo chamber in order to construct one of his products. Anyone with the slightest of scientific backgrounds knows better. He also wants to build a speaker with 20,000 transducers, one for each frequency.

"You need to do the same with the speakers by using 20,000 drivers inside, this is my future project."

He read about crystals and their supposed affect on electronic components, tried some and heard a difference (all in the ears of the beholder), copied/pasted some verbage from the internet, and started a "business". That is far from being a scientist, mad or otherwise.

I come here for the laughs...

 

you obviously have no scientific background, either, posted on November 12, 2011 at 19:16:05
BS64
Audiophile

Posts: 2451
Joined: July 17, 2000
 He is using quartz, which is silicon dioxide. Pure silicon is the base material for semiconductors, and it is not transparent as quartz is. Oxide layers are applied in a controlled manner to exact specifications of composition, thickness and uniformity.

 

Crystals do have an effect on electrical components, posted on November 13, 2011 at 04:17:34
An observer


 
They're called semiconductors.

As (undeniably) nuts as his exploration has been, he stumbled on the truth by sheer accident at great cost. His methods and materials are all wrong but he's on to something with his ideas of "perfection".

If he just put aside the crazy juice and learned electrical engineering to make his ideas work, he could be a great cable designer. I don't think I have to apologize for saying that.

 

That's because he's hawking gemstones, posted on November 13, 2011 at 04:26:12
An observer


 
and because the idea of a passive semiconductor is ridiculous to start with. He's still got the idea of using semiconductor materials in tweaks and cables.

As I said, it'd be interesting to see what he could do with the idea of a two-plug power cord, with the second plug as an active component of the cable. The idea would justify cable voodoo, and I'm a skeptic.

Right now giving his financing and lack of electronic knowledge he has to lean heavily on audio woo to state afloat. Don't let that fool you

 

Last thoughts, posted on November 14, 2011 at 16:15:05
An observer


 
I was looking at the Cable Ring thread below and saw something to the effect that Tweak A makes the sound "grey and silky" and Tweak B, "black and edgy" but the Cable Ring makes the sound both "black and silky". If you'll notice for a second, these are unique among Patrick's buzzwords. Usually he's into clarity, microdetail, and other meaningless abstract nouns. But black/grey and edgy/silky sound are very real and easy to understand, even if they're hard to put into words. Clinically speaking, a man more at home with abstract thoughts than concrete reality is considered psychotic, but real life isn't a DSM manual.
Patrick is a man who is clearly functional enough to win high-stakes pool competitions, spend all his winnings on expensive audio cables, solder and hardwire and cut them apart to learn cable constriction, sustain an idea long enough to get into Virtual Dynamics' conceptual prototypes, learn through sheer intuition what makes the Judge more promising than the Nordost Valhalla (remember that phase?), form an entire design philosophy around the promising Virtual Dynamics concept, figure out on his own the idea behind semiconductor devices, learn the difference between active and passive components (see the "0.06mA" of current that he claims makes his crystals active filters), start a business, design a website, keep a girlfriend, father a child, keep both, and make slow and incremental but unmistakable refinements in his ideas, company and website. Clearly he is not a lunatic. He's a laughingstock because of his utter ignorance of basic electrical engineering. But electrical engineering can be taught; what he already has - which is to achieve all he has using nothing but intuition and cable alchemy - cannot.

I happen to think that what Patrick already has is extraordinary and would encourage him to put his Coconut Audio earnings in the bank for a while to pick up a book. The world doesn't get people like him too often, and he has the brainpower to revolutionize the cable industry. I want to see him use it someday, and I don't think I'm alone.

 

RE: Last thoughts, posted on November 24, 2011 at 12:56:05
baka1969
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Joined: November 12, 2011
 Sniff. Sniff. I smell a shill.

Peace

 

hmm, posted on November 25, 2011 at 21:24:43
BS64
Audiophile

Posts: 2451
Joined: July 17, 2000
 keep a girlfriend and father a child. neither one of those is a monumental task. nor is anything else that you mention.

 

RE: Last thoughts, posted on December 24, 2011 at 12:04:38
avsBuddy
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Posts: 696
Joined: March 8, 2010
 Oh Patrick. You're poor poor soul. Thinking about selling cables, ha? ;)

 

RE: Last thoughts, posted on January 2, 2012 at 10:17:20
Frank I
 The guy sounds like a madman and was banned on other sites and some of the products look insanely priced and if he got you conned more power to him.

 

RE: Last thoughts, posted on January 24, 2012 at 13:37:00
avsBuddy
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Joined: March 8, 2010
 Frank, I hope you realized that original poster "observer" and Coconut-Audio are most likely the same person :)

 

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