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In Reply to: RE: Another huge defeat for conservatives last night was when, posted by Michael Samra on November 04, 2009 at 11:05:13
In all seriousness, if Conservatives want smaller government, which translates to the least amount of interference by government, than I think that homosexuals should either be allowed to legally marry in accordance with state law, or that government should get out of the marriage business altogether. Between the two, I personally feel that government should get out of the marriage business. If two individuals want to be involved in a private ceremony that they call a marriage ceremony, so be it. It's a free country, and people should be allowed to make any declaration they want to another being provided that when the other being is human, said human must be an adult and agrees to it.
If you or I feel that the original intent of marriage is being mocked and desecrated, we are entitled to our opinions. Marriage already is by many who can legally engage in it. I would never be a member of a church that would endorse such a ceremony, and that is exactly where our religious freedom comes in and protects us from the government interfering with our theological and moral beliefe and forcing us to accept sin.
Pat
That might be one way to look at it but the other way to look at it is,the reason America stayed so strong all these years was their religious bond and moral conviction. Eventually,when you practice and endorse willful immorality,its eventually going to take its toll and thats proven thru the centuries.Look at the fall of Rome,and France succumbing to Germany in two weeks.My father was going to college at the American university in Paris in the 1940s and he said Son,its easy to see why Hitler took France in 2 weeks because there was so much drinking, and gambling, and loose sex, and prostitution that many people just didn't care. When thats happens,this is when a nation falls,militarily and economically.
If the power supply waveform isn't pretty,neither is the sound in most cases.
And you expect to be taken seriously?
Seriously?
I was merely saying the moral of the people of France was extremely low and most were engaging in self indulgence. When you are just out to have a good time and commit every sin in the book and just plain don't give a shit,of course another country could take you down at a rapid pace..I just stated some of what was going on at the time in France and if you don't believe it,you better start reading some of the history of France and what was going on. My dad was there going to school and he was amazed at the attitudes people had towards everything. Its like,oh the sky is falling!! OH well,NO BIG DEAL,,,,WE can catch it tomorrow.
If the power supply waveform isn't pretty,neither is the sound in most cases.
without any interest in what really happened. It is just as lazy as unprotected sex that produces a child out of wedlock.
foreign invaders must know that the hedonists there are ripe for the picking. I expect they'll be taken down pretty quick.
Any city that is just plagued with a good time and no responsibility,I would say they are bucking for trouble.
If the power supply waveform isn't pretty,neither is the sound in most cases.
Jamestown, and moral they weren't. Read about Ben Franklin's life.
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there was so much drinking, and gambling, and loose sex, and prostitution
Bush 2nd = recovering alcoholic
Wall Street = gamblers, all of them
Myself = I like to think of being able to take advantage of 'loose sex'
Anyone want to confess about prostitution?
No wonder our day has passed as a great nation!
When the Western Empire fell in 476, Christianity had been the state religion of the Empire for over 130 years. Some historians have concluded that Rome fell BECAUSE Christianity prevailed (or at least that was a significant factor), as ever scarcer state resources were funneled to support an ever growing church heirarchy.
It might even be argued that the growth and expansion of the Roman Empire occured earlier, in the pre-Christian period - at precisely those times when the immorality of the populace was at its most pronounced.
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