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• Two reasons: - robert young 12:55:39 01/17/06 (3)
  In Reply to: What makes you doubt? posted by KlausR. on January 17, 2006 at 00:56:43:

  First, the late '70s and '80s were not great times for vinyl. An "audiophile " pressing from that era is different from those referred to as "audiophile pressings" today. Someone saying a recording is of high quality doesn't make it so....

  Second, you usually quote articles in your rather pedantic commentaries that are over twenty years old. This particular one is 26 years old. I think a lot has changed since then, especially in vinyl care, even in such a "dead" format...
  
  

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  • Quoting old stuff - KlausR. 01:15:58 01/18/06 (2)
    In Reply to: Two reasons: posted by robert young on January 17, 2006 at 12:55:39:

    Don't blame me, the most recent technical articles about vinyl ARE more than 20 years old. Has there anything worth mentioning been written during those 20 years, if so, please let me know. And what makes you think that old technical stuff has lost its value?

    Today there are means and methods way better than what was available 20 years ago but where are the people enthusiast enough to use them?

    Maybe it's true that a lot has changed in vinyl care, but is there evidence that today's stuff is better? Where is technical background and/or groove pictures that indicate that liquids like L'Art du Son are a step forward? Are we condemned to blindly believe what manufacturers say?

    
    Klaus
    
    

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    • Re: Quoting old stuff - robert young 04:22:43 01/18/06 (1)
      In Reply to: Quoting old stuff posted by KlausR. on January 18, 2006 at 01:15:58:

      "And what makes you think that old technical stuff has lost its value?"

      I don't: I just think it's funny that you always quote from ancient JAES papers, as if you were given a pile of them several years ago and you base your entire audio-knowledge on what you've READ...

      "Today there are means and methods way better than what was available 20 years ago but where are the people enthusiast enough to use them?"

      That's a joke, right?

      "Where is technical background and/or groove pictures that indicate that liquids like L'Art du Son are a step forward? Are we condemned to blindly believe what manufacturers say?"

      Does the existence of "technical background" affect the sound?? Why don't you do what Jack Seaton (and many others here, myself included) have done: test them yourself using the only testing devices that matter: your ears and your brain...

      Happy reading-about-audio;)
      
      

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      • You see, I'm a hopeless case:-) - KlausR. 08:35:14 01/18/06 (0)
        In Reply to: Re: Quoting old stuff posted by robert young on January 18, 2006 at 04:22:43:

        If I had more recent stuff to quote from, I would, problem is, there is none!!! I mean, serious stuff!

        What concerns enthusiastic people, ask Fremer (for example) what he thinks of writing an in-depth article about cleaning liquids, their chemistry, and use groove pics for showing the effects of the ereliquids. I frankly don't think that there's enough enthusiasm among vinyl writers to go to that length. Maybe I'm wrong, the future will show us.

        Testing devices: your ears can be fooled and your brain, well, my BS-meter is on red alert almost all the time!

        Happy listening.
        Klaus
        
        

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