I got the table on Wednesday, set it up on Thursday, have listened as much as possible,(not enough)and I am very happy! The existing reviews
on the Interspace already state what I am experiencing, especially the first by akshobhyavajra, his platter is the same as mine. I am
using my Oracle Groove Isolator mat, it just seems to focus the music most effectively. Also, I am using a graphite/moly grease named Premalube from Certified Laboratories out of Texas, it really made my Systemdek IIX lower the noise floor, but the Nott improves even more!
While I also acquired an OL-1 arm and an Orofon VMS20E cart with the table I am using my Expressimo RB250 and a Grado Gold, more familiar
at this time.
I am just trying to listen to as many LP's as possible, each one is
like hearing it for the 1st time...
Well I am quite intrigued about the comments Nottingham Analogue turntables get from devotees. I am in the market to upgrade my elderly AR EB-101 that incidentally does still surprise me with the glorious sounds it makes after all these years. After reading many reviews I shortlisted the Nottingham Analogue Interspace/Horizon/Spacedeck along with the Clearaudio Champion and the Michell Gyro SE.
I dutifully set off on a 140 mile round trip to listen to the Nottingham decks and the dealer firstly demo'ed the Horizon/RB250/Goldring 1012. Well I was wholly underwhelmed, no soundstage whatsoever and such a thin scratchy sound. I lasted about 15 minutes but had to stop listening as I knew I could not live with this sound any longer.
I consoled myself that the Spacedeck/Spacearm/Dynavector 10x5 would be the business as this combination was pushing the £2000.00 mark (way above my budget) and was duly expecting to be blown away. Well, what a disappointment, still little soundstage, admittedly more detailed and certainly lifting more out of the grooves but still that thin scratchy sound.
I have been temporally put off from the upgrade bug, wholly due to this Nottingham Analoge episode. When I have recovered my sensibilities somewhat I am going to audition the Clearaudio and the Gyrodec but for now the EB-101 is still hitting the spot.
Thanks for the responses and I agree that it did seem to be only myself that had heard the Nottingham decks and not liked them. There is another dealer, just a little further away, where I can audition the Interspace against the Gyrodec head to head, so as I am now somewhat more upbeat after your positive posts I will arrange a demo' and let you know how I get on.
Glad you're going to give the Nott a second chance and I will be interested to hear how the comparison goes. And us crazy Nottheads will even forgive you if you prefer the Michell. :-)
I assure you the sound you heard from the Spacedeck was related to either a poor setup of the table, inferior associated components, a bad room, or a combination of all the above. What you described is not the way a proper Spacedeck should sound. If possible, try to demo the Nottingham products at a different dealer. When it's right, you won't be disappointed.
I am also sorry that you had such a negative experience. I must say that I ordered mine on faith, it being slightly used and no dealers around with any in stock, but if I couldn't get it to sound acceptable
I could get my money back out of it. In my experience the RB250 really
profits from the modifications available (offset counterweight, metal arm stub, and better wiring) but I would suspect improper setup, lack of breakin, or associated equipment before I would blame the Nott. I hope that any upgrade you choose will be pleasant and worthwhile. It
is obvious to me that you have good ears by enjoying your AR table, I was smart enough to buy 2 of them at different times, and shortsighted enough to sell both...
I would certainly hate to go 140 miles for that experience!
Fact is, I may not have golden ears, but "no soundstage", "thin", "scratchy" just in no way accurately describes a properly set up Nottingham TT. Makes me wonder about your dealer's table/tonearm/cart set up capabilities.
Look, I can see nuances of sound that won't float one person's boat vs. another, but "no soundstage", "thin", "scrathcy"; those terms just are not in the ballpark of descriptors for a properly set up Nottingham.
Again, regrets about your experience. I wouldn't give up on Nott.
I agree that the description really makes it sound like there was something really wrong with the set up. And if that is the case, it is a true shame--first impressions are so important.
Of course, audio is a subjective field and maybe the Notts were properly set up and just doesn't suit your preferences. There's nothing wrong with that and it doesn't mean that one has "lo-fi ears." (Then again, maybe it means I do. :-).)
Interesting anecdote on that score: When I got my Horizon, my Nott dealer (without being asked) told me he knew of only one person who heard the Nottinghams and didn't like them. The person who named turned out to be a mutual acquaintance--the same individual who was the only person who had expressed a negative opinion about the Horizon to me! The thing is, in all other matters related to hi-fi, I trust that individual's judgment a great deal.
We only have a couple audio shops here in Austin that caters to vinyl. One, Sound Mind Audio carries Nottinghams and I was floored when I heard the spacedeck.
Don't know what you have now, but did your Austin dealer mention the Nottingham Analogue Horizon TT at about $1K for 'table w/RB250 tonearm? Or do you just want to hold out for the Spacedeck?
I've had the Horizon w/Grado Sonata cart for about a month and am extremely pleased with performance. My dealer said when he first took on the Nott line clients would request side x side demos between the Horizon and several other highly regarded TTs that he carries at similar and higher price pts., and, so far, the Horizon has batted a thousand for client preference every time. Haven't heard the Spacedeck, but I'm sure it's great since, to continue the baseball metaphor, my Horizon hits musical grand slams all day long!
Not exactly in the Spacedeck class, but it sure gives a sweet taste of the Nott sound at a very sweet price. I don't know what your price range might be or what you are using now, but if you have $1,000 to spend on a table/arm and you are currently using something that costs much less than that, the Horizon would be an option to consider while saving your pennies for the Spacedeck. (I like my Horizon so much I'm not even saving my pennies anymore--spending them all on new records!)
Congratulations. When can we expect the beer and pizza party?
You did the right thing to ditch the stock foam mat. But you really must try the Boston Audio Mat 1. I have one on my Spacedeck and love it. I tried it on my buddy's Interspace yesterday and his impressions were the same as mine. It's a must have on Notts.
> > his impressions were the same as mine.
Could you elaborate a bit?
I have not heard of them, nor can I find a link in Audiogrid. What are
they made of, how much do they cost, and where do you get them?
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