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In Reply to: RE: Technics SL-1200G vs Continum Caliburn & SAT Arm posted by Erocka2000 on February 02, 2017 at 15:07:16
It's BS to degrade an interesting and entertaining listening experiment. I don't understand the negativity either. I think it's fun to do this sort of thing and I commend Michael Fremer for his efforts in promoting vinyl comparisons via digital recording. More power to you, Michael!
Best regards,
John Elison
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John, you have to understand. AUDIOPHILES EAT THEIR YOUNG!!!
I don't consider it negative to question or challenge the premise of the challenge. The appeal would depend very much on the individual's taste in music and understanding of experiment design and how someone interprets the purpose of the challenge. The implication was that he considered the 1200G to be extraordinary value for money that punches well above its price class which I firmly believe. After all there is absolutely nothing in the Continuum that justifies its price tag from an engineering perspective.
The question has to be asked then, as an engineer, what you think the experiment is/was that makes it so interesting? Entertaining perhaps if you like his choice of music and just want to hear a Fremer Needle drop in Glorious Digital, but beyond proving the law of diminishing returns I don't quite see what makes it so interesting? It might pique curiousity perhaps.
The Continuum wasn't paired with the manufacturers arm, but with another 3rd party arm - probably because the effective mass was a more sensible match to the Lyra. Beyond that, you are only testing the consistency of setup. It appears that he may have used the Technics geometry given the cartridge position in the headshell, so the alignments were likely different which would already have a bias favouring one setup over the other depending on the track position on the record. Irrespective of whether with the material chosen and the position on the record this would have been audible or not, the experiment is simply ill-defined based on the original premise of the challenge presented by Fremer. In fact I think he might have gained more amusement out of seeing the long list of opinions on which sounded better and why. Now THAT I did find entertaining! It would be the same for the Master Of Wine that I know who often gets people coming up to him gushing forth their opinions of a particularly wine in an attempt to impress and not realising that his reference level is so far out of their league that their comments are almost comical. Being the consummate gentleman that he is, he just politely encourages them to continue to enjoy their hobby! I'm sure this is the same for MF.
Regards Anthony
"Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
You are a curious mixture of inconsistencies! One minute the pedant, the next the Fan Boy. Oh well, such is life as you say.
BTW the VM series of AT cartridges have appeared now on eBay. The 760SLC price is a little less than the Japanese RRP so this price seems about what one might expect. It will take some time for the price to come down based on the pattern of discounting that occurs in Japan.
Regards Anthony
"Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
I wonder why they won't ship to the United States. Oh, well. Such is life! ;-)
Edits: 02/04/17
Big J
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