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In Reply to: RE: Linn system, 30 years old - what would you upgrade first? posted by RHerring on January 19, 2017 at 19:40:33
the rythmiks are priced right and are damned good.
...regards...tr
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"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
I recently replaced my old Cambridge Soundworks subs with some new Rythmik servo subs and the improvement was very welcome and quite noticeable. Rythmik servo subs are definitely the way to go. They have really tight clean bass as a result of the servo system.
It's interesting the way you have your system set up on the diagonal. I have mine set up the same way.
I'm about to build a PH16 as soon as it arrives(hopefully this weekend). Roy said there aren't any labels on it? I see 'Vacuum Tube Audio' on the front of yours, but there's no words for the power button, or for the inputs/outputs on the back? Just curious.
Roy would be able to provide the most accurate information. I bought the large enclosure with my PH16 and it had all the holes punched and it came with engraved labels.
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I asked him, he said 'no labels, all DIY'. I got the 12" version to try and fit side by side next to my preamp in my shelves. I guess I'll have to come up with something.
Edits: 01/24/17
Personally, I wouldn't worry about labels. The input connectors are located next to the grounding lug and the connectors have red and white rings around them. Red is always "right." The switch on the front should be oriented so that "On" is up. Regardless, the LED lights when it's turned on.
The main thing is how it sounds. Mine sounds very nice.
Just go slowly and double check everything as you go. Mine worked perfectly the first time.
The only thing I would do differently is wrap the wires tighter. I used an electric drill to wrap the wires very tightly when building my SP14 line stage.
Good luck,
John Elison
Vacuum Tube Audio PH16 Phono Stage
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Vacuum Tube Audio SP14 Line Stage
snag your picture as another reference to use when building. I initially had my diodes reversed when I built my Bugle. It's supposed to arrive Tuesday so I likely won't get to it until next weekend. I ordered it stock so it'll have the Electro Harmonix tubes.
Doesn't Linn also hustle using their own speakers?
I have a pair of Sara 9s which I adore, and I have been trying to summon the gumption to blow the bucks on an LP12 to see if the synergy is really as good as I have heard.
Your turntable is a table that will, and can, last a lifetime and be of great enjoyment, with endless upgrades possible. Therefore, that is a keeper!
Your speakers are also very special and you would need to spend much more to get more, which may or may not be worth it for you.
I have a pair of the SL6s and they are in my office system. I bought them a year ago because I always longed for a pair and the price was right. Being a tinkerer I upgraded the internal wiring and caps. I like the the mod and feel that it has slightly improved the speakers, whose caps were most likely out of spec due to age. Others have reported that if you change out the caps you search for the same type caps as these speakers were voiced with the OEM in mind. Again, I found that wasn't true in my case.
Your speakers are first generation with the cooper dome. Some folks really long for these, while others felt they were a bit too soft on top. Ultimately, Celestion changed to aluminum dome for the next generations, which help with a bit more extension up top.
If you go for a new amp, try it out to make sure it gives you the balance you like. A solid state amp should work better than tubes, although I did enjoy mine with a pair of Rogue M120's running at 120 watts.
In regards to the above, I used the Celestion at home during a transition from a highly modded pair of Maggie MGIIIa's to JM Labs Micro Utopia's. During the month long transition I enjoyed the Celestion and found them very engaging. Sure, the other two mentioned speakers pretty much beat them in every way but on a whole the Celestion performed nicely and never made any recording sound bad. Well, you have had them for 30 years so you know what you have!
I did use a pair of subs with the Celestions and found that it did help out with the missing last, low octave. But during late night, low volume listening I ran them sans subs and they were delightful!.
So, I can heartily recommend that your table and speakers are desirable and very good performers that can be enhanced with upgrade elsewhere in your system. Knowing this, and if this were my system, I would add a sub and try a new amp. Heck, you might as well try a new pre-amp too or an all in one integrated but don't buy without in home audition to see if it matters to you.
I'm pretty sure that the sub will prove to be a noticeable and worthwhile investment and more risk can be applied there.
Also, your cartridge is another very special product. If it has not been retipped or checked out recently it should. It is certainly worth keeping and retipping. It has a very special cantilever, so look at a retip. It will cost more but should be worth it. I've had excellent results using Soundsmith.
I've used the arm you are using and it is better than most give it credit. Some might suggest a new arm, I would agree, but the difference may or may not matter to you and can be looked at down the road. I think for your system it is a good match.
I'm not familiar with your preamp and can't comment on it's sound but I've found that the preamp and phono section can play a very large part in overall sound. If it gives you what you like, then you are set but don't be afraid to try something else but, again, try before buying.
I would keep the table and speakers and act on the following:
1) Check stylus
2) Add sub
3) Consider amp
4) Consider preamp
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