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In Reply to: RE: Can't help you, then posted by Dave Pogue on January 18, 2017 at 14:27:29
That's interesting. Well, if you're willing, I would find it very helpful if you would describe the sound of the Empire in your system. Describe the sound of the Jelco.....and compare the two to one another. Very much appreciated.
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Take a look at my setup and goals on Inmate Systems. Note that warmth is one of my six sonic goals. With 29 tubes in the system it could hardly be otherwise.
We both have modded Lenco tuntables. As noted, I had a JMW 10.5i arm on mine. The Empire table/arm were used strictly for 78 rpm records of which I have hundreds. Frankly, given the way it sounded to me on LPs, it never occurred to me to use it that way. How DID it sound? Two-dimensional, uninvolving, generally mediocre in all respects, no matter what cartridge I used. Even with 78s it was distinctly lacking. I liked the way it looked much better than the way it sounded.
So when it essentially disintegrated, I was not unhappy at all. Enter the Jelco SA-750D... mostly because it was a drop-in replacement, pure and simple. But such an improvement in all ways, to the point where it begged to be used with LPs. And there it just floored me because it sounded wonderfully warm and yet clear, open and detailed.
What really amazed me is that it sounded way better to me than the MUCH more expensive JMW on the Lenco. So I bought another Jelco for the Lenco. End of story. I couldn't be happier with the way it all turned out.
Cartridges? Nine of them currently, as listed in Inmate Systems. Eight can be used on either table. The ninth, an Ortofon 78 rpm model, stays with the Empire and my 78s never sounded so good.
After all this personal experience I really don't see how you can stand listening to that Empire arm. But to each his own.
Thanks for the write up. That's great information. May I ask, specifically, what did you not like about Empire arm? Are you saying that is what was un-involving and mediocre?
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