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The link is below. The article was written by David Sax. Has anyone here read his book "The revenge of Analog: Real Things and Why They Matter?" Curious if it is worth reading.
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The author may have had mal treated albums in his/her collection so they would sound scratchy and noisy. No big deal.
I use all media to my disposal and I don't limit myself to one just media. There is too much good music out there to do that. I've also own copies of albums spread across two or three different media with some performing better tha others depending on the recording/mastering engineer. Media doesn't make a recording better over another media. That's a common misconception based on die hard proponents of one media over another. The recording/mastering engineer ultimately determines how well a recording sounds regardless of media. My arguement excludes low bit rate MP3s
Thse words alone describe the LP sound. The instruments and performers PLUS the space the music is performed in (when that was part of the recording) is more TANGIBLE when played back via LP.
...regards...tr
Am I so far out on the bell curve that sound is the real reason for vinyl??? Is the real reason I never got rid of my turntable and LPs is because of some large disc that needs to be care for like a child or because the alternative was not a option for REAL sound???
Truth be known I find the ritual or inconvenience to be a pita. I do admit I like building really large turntables.
Well I guess I will be kicked out of the TRC (Tangible ritual club) for writing this but I do feel better!!!
Enjoy the ride
Tom
but they compared playing a record to having an "indoor barbecue." In terms of being involved I suppose.
Watch it, your LP is burning. Better flip it.
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"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
I like it, so far.
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Just another spectator who doesn't know about proper vinyl reproduction!
has an inherently "scratchy" sound.
"an inherently "scratchy" sound"
Where did you buy them? I have a few thousand LPs and none of those I bought new came with scratches, so why do you refer to "inherently"?
"The piano ain't got no wrong notes." Thelonious Monk
You must have missed the "notion" in my subject line. I was, apparently unsuccessfully, trying to convey that records did not have a "scratchy sound". My wording may have been unclear.
I listen exclusively to records as I don't currently have a digital source.
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I read past the first paragraph and understand the authors POV. I obviously clearly failed to state my own. I took Mr. Manns post to mean he was deriding the idea that vinyl was "scratchy".
I wasn't referring to you in that post but Mr. Mann. I understood your point.
The article did not enlighten me one bit. I mean, I agree with the content but there is nothing new here. Kind of the same thing that has been said before.
I am also in the camp of, " it just sounds good".
Lets sum up what the article said.
Vinyl is an outdated, "scratchy" medium which digital is markedly "superior" to, who's only value is "nostalgic"!
Did I miss anything here?
With all due respect, yes, you did miss something here-- you missed the essence of the article! You missed the author's main intent. He sees nostalgia as a good thing, not something to be demeaned or dismissed. He says: " Nostalgia's role here is crucial. It is the critical eye that values everything against what came before it, and constantly asks whether each new idea is an improvement, or not....nostalgia isn't just some foolish whim. It is a life raft, and the one sure means of grounding ourselves in a world that promises constant change."Your summation of the article that "vinyl is an outdated, "scratchy" medium which digital is markedly "superior" to, who's only value is "nostalgic"! " is clearly not to be taken literally. The author is merely echoing what others have said. If anything, he is clearly a cheerleader for the analog medium.
In all honesty, if this were a college board SAT exam and the question asked was " which is the best response to sum up this article", is that the answer you'd choose?
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That is NOT why I listen to vinyl. There is just more "there" there.
...regards...tr
he is flat out wrong about the merits of vinyl sound quality and that kind of kills the value of the article.
I'm not sure why this article has presented such difficulty, why it's subject to such misinterpretation.As I read it, he says almost nothing about vinyl sound quality, except the word "scratchy" . Where does he talk about sound quality of vinyl in this article? I can't find it anywhere.
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"these technologies are functionally obsolete. How could this be happening? Why would someone pay $20 or more for a secondhand copy of Bill Withers' "+Justments" on a scratchy plastic disc that plays only on a costly, troublesome turntable, when she could stream the same album in digital clarity on Spotify'
That's a lot more than "scratchy." It is a gross misrepresentation of the relative merits of the sound quality of vinyl.
So...maybe it isn't us who are having trouble understanding it or misinterpretating it.
Here we go again. I think you're misinterpreting the author's intent. Did you read my previous post?
"Your summation of the article that "vinyl is an outdated, "scratchy" medium which digital is markedly "superior" to, who's only value is "nostalgic"! " is clearly NOT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY! The author is merely echoing what others have said. If anything, he is clearly a cheerleader for the analog medium."
Let's just agree to disagree and end this.
Like this, for instance:"To the millions of consumers worldwide who have resurrected the record industry over the past few years, I suspect the feeling is mutual. To us, the return of vinyl, even as we listen to streaming services on the drive to work represents not regression, but progress."
If you read just the introduction in his book, you would clearly see that he is a fan of all things analog.
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Perhaps you took a speed reading course or are living in an alternate universe. In any case, take a breath, go back and read the article.
What a ridiculous comment. The essay actually deals with a very real and tangible aspect of choosing vinyl as a preference to digital, not to mention that the writer is clearly not a spectator. SMH.
Did you actually read the piece? If so, how could that comment possibly be your takeaway?
I have not read the article yet but I did read all the posts reguarding the article, yea I do that sometimes. LPs, turntables and everything that goes with it has always impressed me the sound and the set up CD not so much.
Kindablue
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