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• RE: Best $500 phono pre better than any $1,000 phono pre? - FSonicSmith 07:47:48 07/31/16 (0)
  In Reply to: RE: Best $500 phono pre better than any $1,000 phono pre? posted by vinyl survivor on July 27, 2016 at 20:08:36

  I found it very dissapointing to hear that Darren/Avatar has been dropped as the US distributor for iFi and AMR. I own an AMR DP777 that I bought second hand on A-gon. Darren treated me well despite not being an original owner. He championed the AMR and iFi products like nobody's business. I can't imagine what someone at AMR was thinking.
  

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• Well - Awe-d-o-file 08:47:32 07/28/16 (5)
  In Reply to: RE: Best $500 phono pre better than any $1,000 phono pre? posted by vinyl survivor on July 27, 2016 at 20:08:36

  There are plenty of people that like the first version. As to what level of phono stage it bests I dont know. I generally find giant killer discussions to be speculative and most often free of factual comparison.
  
  
  Too bad we all dont have bottomless wallets so as to try any phono stage regardless of price.
  
  
  
  ET
  
  "If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
  
  

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  • I agree - Lew 08:56:06 07/29/16 (1)
    In Reply to: RE: Well posted by Awe-d-o-file on July 28, 2016 at 08:47:32

    After decades of penny-pinching and now that I have achieved the status of old fart, I am thinking seriously of buying one or two of the legendary pieces on the used market, just to be able to say that I have heard them in my system and to know where my baseline phono stages stand, by comparison. I've been a good boy, and I deserve it.
    

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    • RE: I agree - Awe-d-o-file 16:30:37 07/29/16 (0)
      In Reply to: RE: I agree posted by Lew on July 29, 2016 at 08:56:06

      Yes you do deserve it! LOL
      
      
      
      ET
      
      "If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
      
      

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  • I agree - vinyl survivor 17:41:07 07/28/16 (2)
    In Reply to: RE: Well posted by Awe-d-o-file on July 28, 2016 at 08:47:32

    About being able to compare different phono stages as that is the only way know what sounds best. As John found out with the Budgie, impedance matching is critical for optimal performance.
    
    If anyone purchases the new version, a comparison to other phono preamps would be much appreciated.
    

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    • RE: I agree - John Elison 18:52:32 07/28/16 (1)
      In Reply to: RE: I agree posted by vinyl survivor on July 28, 2016 at 17:41:07

      > As John found out with the Budgie, impedance matching is critical for optimal performance.
      
      I'm going to try the Budgie with my new VTA SP14 preamp. I believe it has input impedance substantially higher than 100,000-ohms. I'll let you know how it sounds in a week or so after I complete the SP14 kit.
      
      Best regards,
      John Elison
      

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      • Awesome! - vinyl survivor 19:01:42 07/28/16 (0)
        In Reply to: RE: I agree posted by John Elison on July 28, 2016 at 18:52:32

        I'm looking forward to your thoughts.
        

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• It's just a phono stage - jedrider 21:07:03 07/27/16 (4)
  In Reply to: RE: Best $500 phono pre better than any $1,000 phono pre? posted by vinyl survivor on July 27, 2016 at 20:08:36

  Considering how little it must actually do, it is good it is a small size!
  
  I wonder what gains you would get with an upgraded power supply? Maybe, they've eliminated the necessity for that, too.
  

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  • Upgraded power supply - M3 lover 10:29:40 07/29/16 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: It's just a phono stage posted by jedrider on July 27, 2016 at 21:07:03

    I bought an early version of the JLTi phono stage when they were made in Oz. They claimed a wall wart was all that was necessary for top performance.
    
    Fortunately for me, a friend who knew a great deal about electronics built a fully regulated power supply for me and adapted the JLTi for it. I found a significant improvement in dynamics, bass resolution, and spatiality.
    
    The JLTi was an Allen Wright design and about that time production was moved to Switzerland under the Vacuum State company. They offered an outboard power supply as an option to the wall wart. I didn't continue to follow them but it is possible the wall wart version was discontinued due to lack of interest.
    
    From my experience, I wouldn't be surprised.
    
    "The piano ain't got no wrong notes." Thelonious Monk
    
    

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  • RE: It's just a phono stage - flood2 16:52:40 07/28/16 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: It's just a phono stage posted by jedrider on July 27, 2016 at 21:07:03

    It is impossible to speculate without looking at the circuit topology, but the higher power supply voltage may translate to improved input overload margin.
    
    However, even with the previous 9V supply with sufficient current capability, it is possible to use a boost converter to get higher voltages where needed. This comes with a noise penalty. In which case the new power supply maybe to eliminate the use of a Boost Converter.
    
    I have the first version and there are noise spikes from the SMPS which are at quite a significant amplitude. It does sound pretty good though. The noise figures for the iPhono2 are significantly better.
    
    Regards Anthony
    
    "Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
    
    

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  • RE: It's just a - hifitommy 11:45:59 07/28/16 (1)
    In Reply to: RE: It's just a phono stage posted by jedrider on July 27, 2016 at 21:07:03

    a bigger power supply is never a bad thing.
    ...regards...tr
    
    

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    • Amen! (nt) - DeeCee 14:50:38 07/28/16 (0)
      In Reply to: RE: It's just a posted by hifitommy on July 28, 2016 at 11:45:59

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