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In Reply to: RE: Phoenix Roadrunner/Eagle PSU with a Thorens TD-124? posted by Erocka2000 on May 24, 2016 at 08:30:48
The magnet for the roadrunner normally attaches to the underside of the platter, which doesn't look like an option for the 124. It might be possible to put the magnet on the bottom edge of the side of the platter and then set the sensor sideways to read the magnet.
I would definitely contact Phoenix Engineering about this.
Would you need the Eagle (vs the Falcon) because the Thorens requires a lot of torque?
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There is definitely space under the platter. I just spoke with Phoenix and they shared a picture with me showing that the magnet was placed on the bottom of the vertical ring of the heavy main platter.
I just want to know if anyone who used it noticed an improvement in sound and speed stability.
I reviewed the Roadrunner/Eagle here:
http://www.audioasylum.com/reviews/Power-Conditioner-Surge-Protector/Phoenix-Engineering/Eagle-Roadrunner/vinyl/112/1122757.html
Yes they make a noticeable difference on my Prime. I can't speak for other turntables or any of the myriad of additional variables that could affect your outcome. Last night I unplugged them for a different reason and the comments in my review were re-confirmed.
Bill
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"If people don't want to come, nothing will stop them" - Sol Hurok
Yes, you certainly can use the Eagle alone, but....the combination of the Eagle and Roadrunner provides continuous adjustment of the speed of the platter once each rotation.
In other words, the speed is more stable.
I could immediately hear a more cohesive sound, better pitch and tone definition with the combination on my modified Lenco.
Tried the Falcon (less powerful unit) with my VPI, then added the Roadrunner to it...again, an improvement as above.
The Roadrunner is not just window-dressing, although there is no reason you can not use if for that.
I installed a Phoenix Eagle and Roadrunner to my VPI Super Scoutmaster with rim drive, which replaced the SDS. The Eagle/Roadrunner combo definitely stabilized the speed to a much more accurate and consistent level, within 33.333 +/- .003 after warmup, which has improved sound and musical flow. Much better PRAT, cohesiveness, sounding more like a master tape.
I misunderstood, but your OP did say that you wanted to "make sure it was going to work", which made me wonder if the thorens platter had room to put the magnet underneath.
I'm using both the roadrunner and the eagle with my VPI Prime, and I cannot hear an improvement in pitch stability, but the roadrunner readout clearly shows that the Prime motor is a little fast, and is closer to the ideal 33.33333... (45.000....) speed. I just don't HEAR the improvement. Some people say they do.
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