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In Reply to: RE: Amazing question to me from an Ebayer... posted by popsy on May 13, 2016 at 16:26:24
This speaks to the issue of standardization. For most collectors the standard visual grading outlined in Goldmine, Osborne (USA) or Record Collector (Eur) is often the standard that determines value. As soon as you are "selling" records to someone value becomes an issue.
If a record looks poor but is "play graded" as VG++ it is still a limited value record; not from a standpoint of enjoyment but of $ value. Since you are selling it, value is a big part of the equation. I come across a ton of records that I don't sell because they visually grade VG(+) or worse and frankly a collection of VG(+) records is of limited value. I know I wouldn't want to pay much for that collection even if they played nicely..unless I spent very,very little $ or the titles were not available any other way.
I would love to sell visually challenged LPs as "play graded" NM- , as might be the case, but that would be a questionable practice.
To be honest, I never buy records from sellers that "play" grade or use their own "grading system" without explanation and find this practice suspicious when buying from someone I don't know. Obviously your intent may be pure but this is the view from the buyer's perspective.
All of this being said, there was a wonderful article on an elderly woman in England(I belive) who sells classical records of the VERY rare variety and play-grades them indicating every tic and pop. I would assume these are rare classical records that probably also look NM and cost big $ to make that worth her while, but who knows!
Just 2 cents from a guy who has spent lots of dollars on vinyl.
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So, the world has settled on a foolish (visual) "standard". That should not surprise. F' 'em.
I actually do list in the auction if there are pops, tics, skips etc...and if there is some "surface" noise. I figure I might as well since I am listening to the lp. That being said, the last time I sold albums it was on a lot basis back in '91 when I had to sell my collection of 5k plus due to a divorce and those were all in superb shape as I took care of them plus they were all bought brand new or were WLP's and thus had very few plays. Got back into vinyl a few years back and have amassed a little over 3k and have decided that I better start listening or I won't hear them all before passing on.
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