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In Reply to: RE: Dual 1019 posted by Kindablue on September 26, 2015 at 12:26:45
I've had Duals serviced by a Dual specialist in Canada. Others have successfully refurbished and serviced their own Duals. There isn't a pat answer to your question about worthwhile investment.I'm guessing, completely refurbed, the 1019 isn't worth more than $450. I know a professional recording engineer who uses the 1019 for audio restoration projects. But he has his own tech who maintains the turntable.
The nicest thing about the turntable: the extremely nimble tonearm. The worst thing about the turntable: the thoroughly outdated idler-wheel drive.
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"We should look beyond the measurements." ~ From 'Engineering for Poetry Majors, 3rd Edition'
"Show me on the doll where the bad math touched you." ~ Vinyl Cop
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I respectfully disagree. The idler wheel technology is the best thing about the Dual. Not quite a Lenco, but my Dual definitely has that rhythmic, propulsive drive and slam that you don't motice is missing from most even mid level expensive belt drives until you hear a properly operating idler. Contact Bill and fixmydual. He can put a 1019 into perfect shape for you. The money you spend on the table and refurb could not buy you anythingnew half as fun to listen to.
Glad you like your idler wheel turntable. I don't know what "propulsive drive" and "slam" are. I know what rumble is, because I measure it with sophisticated equipment.
Belt drive and direct drive beat idler-wheel drive in the rumble department by a significant margin, all else being equal.
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"We should look beyond the measurements." ~ From 'Engineering for Poetry Majors, 3rd Edition'
"Show me on the doll where the bad math touched you." ~ Vinyl Cop
I know what drive and slam are, are, and what music is, because I listen with my ears.
That's great. Like I said, have fun with your turntable.
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"We should look beyond the measurements." ~ From 'Engineering for Poetry Majors, 3rd Edition'
"Show me on the doll where the bad math touched you." ~ Vinyl Cop
WEll looks like unless I run into someone near by the table is not worth investing money in. What a disapointment. But I thank you all for your help this is a very knowledgable and helpful forum.
Much appreciated of your time and experience
I find the highly complex Dual automatic idler-wheel turntables really aggravating, especially when it comes to looking for lubes and spare parts. Anti-skating cams can simply split with age. I've replaced a couple of those, but it isn't fun, especially with a benign tremor.:oYou can knock things out of adjustment just by moving the turntables around, I find, even when there is otherwise nothing wrong with the units.
The nearest competent Dual specialist in "my area" is 180 miles away, in Canada. The other guy is in Iowa ("FixMyDual"? I can't remember). "Dr. Dual", in Canada, told me to my face that he doesn't like to ship Dual turntables because stuff gets knocked out of adjustment so easily. So even an experienced tech has noticed the stability problems.
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"We should look beyond the measurements." ~ From 'Engineering for Poetry Majors, 3rd Edition'
"Show me on the doll where the bad math touched you." ~ Vinyl Cop
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I've spent some effort and money into mine, I'm glad I did, it sounds great. Sorta good that people talk them down, it keeps them affordable.
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