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In Reply to: RE: They just built a cheaper mouse trap..... posted by jeromelang on May 25, 2015 at 20:23:33
"old schooler's" --with our oh so charming common sense--would point out that one doesn't need to vacuum to the point at which static goes off the charts.When I had a VPI cleaner, I let it rotate twice, and only twice.
Edits: 05/25/15Follow Ups:
Even if the vinyl surface us still wet while the brushes go over it, there will still be static.
The only way is to blow dry or spin dry.
You owe it to yourself to hear how good your record can sound using contactless drying
Wet washing with RCM is one of the most effective ways to remove static .... not speaking hypothetically, experience, and lots of it!.
Is effective against neutralizing static that dulls the sound of your record.
But avoid drying methods that require brushes to go over the surfaces of the vinyl.
Go either blow dry or spin dry.
After 40 years cleaning records I have a pretty good idea how to do it so I can say with certainty, spin dry and blow dry does not work. Try blow drying your vette after washing it spotlessly clean, water marks, water marks all over the place. The same happens on vinyl.
I would stop wasting my time posting and save up for a more revealing cartridge so you can hear the difference. Really, all this posturing with so little knowledge in depth.
HW
We assume when you said a more revealing cartridge, you're talking about one that reveals more of the surface contaminants on vinyl records after a cleaning, which is what's being discussed here, isn't it?So in your eminent opinion, can you tell us what cartridge allows you to hear more of the ticks and pops on vinyl surfaces after a cleaning?
If one thinks about it, 40 years of experience is useless if it is not of relevant to the topics on hand.
Edits: 05/28/15
I've used a 16.5 for years and my routine is to shut off the pump after two rotations. The tube does not lift off for nearly another full rotation. This has worked well for me and I don't have any problem with static. And I live in arid So. Cal. where it is officially classified as a desert.
"You can't know what the "best" is unless you have heard everything, and keep in mind that given individual tastes, there really isn't any such thing." HP
....create static or not, even if it is just one singular rotation of the brushes going over vinyl surfaces is to listen to a record washed without any brushes, and dried by either blowing or dried by spinning.Let's be clear about one thing:
The type of static created by brushes going over vinyl surfaces that I'm talking about - is not the type that causes continuous crackling noise, but rather, what I'm talking about is the type that causes soundstage to shrink, imaging becoming forward, and sense of lethargic burdening down of dynamics.
Edits: 05/26/15
I just don't care anymore, but very happy with how the vac lifts gunk quickly and easily.
My hair started turning gray before I hit 40. Now it is starting to fall out!
Still using my VPI 16.5 and a Zerostat (on records, not my hair!), and have no desire for anything else...
Dman
Analog Junkie
Always works for me, and I live in the mid-west (which is always dry with exception of the past week! LOL)...
Dman
Analog Junkie
Yeah, if you don't have a zerostat, you might as well just throw your records on the ground and stomp on then, regardless of how you've cleaned them. Obviously exaggerating a bit for laughs, but...
I got mine used on ebay for ~$40, but I think it would be worth every penny at $100.
I love my VPI, but I'd enjoy it far less if I didn't have the Zerostat.
I should note that I sometimes zap an LP after a 2-revolution brushing with the AudioQuest.
Static can be a bear.
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