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In Reply to: RE: It was a good way to make him leave posted by Curious on March 26, 2015 at 19:51:27
>>I've downloaded a few needle drops. I have the Mirror Spock version of the UHQR Sgt. Pepper and DSOTM. They are native 24/96 files, and they sound great.<<
Share / trade ?
>>For me, digital copies always seem to soften the sound. Notes don't decay like they can on vinyl. DSD seems to retain those nuances to a greater extent.<<
I used to think 16/44 evil, when asked to record a certain recording for a friend years ago (to determine recorded sibilance vs mistracking) I flat out refused to consider digital, because everything I'd heard on CD to that point couldn't capture what even a modest turntable could routinely do.
In other words, I was blaming 16/44 ENTIRELY based on poor mastering techniques, and dragging down the format with it (Teresa anyone). My first recorder was a commercial Sony. A POS in terms of build quality, and certainly not at all transparent in terms of recording quality. It's meters were so slow and inaccurate, I'd end up clipping dynamic peaks without knowing it until after recording. However, despite not being close to "perfect", it was still obvious that 16/44 rips captured the majority of my rigs capabilities. And even more surprisingly, they were often head-over-heals better (certainly more dynamic) than the commercial CD release.
My current profession Sony W66, significantly closes that gap between source and copy. In direct comparison to my TT, it's just like you stated, dimensional data (depicting space & time, like a fading note) is curtailed, and the image as a whole is shrunk a touch. But note, this is also very much LP dependent, dimensional depth of field clues are not nearly as apparent (or important) with the vast majority of studio recordings.
When it comes to instrumental impact, perceived layering of the recorded venue, and especially wide bandwidth/frequency extreme resolution, very little difference if any exist.
However, I will also add this; my CDP offers above average wide bandwidth and transparency. It also is one of the rare players I've had in my system which can give my TT a run for the money. In fact, given the same mastered software (especially if recorded originally in digital), they tend to sound identical.
Now that said, I'm not disputing the advantages of DSD, or hi-rez PCM for that matter. Advantages exist given the right circumstances, but considering the vastly increased file sizes, and the fact that anyone can replay WAV files on near any device, as a sharing tool, DSD is far too restrictive.
tb1
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> considering the vastly increased file sizes, and the fact that anyone can replay WAV files on near any device,
> as a sharing tool, DSD is far too restrictive.Nearly every DAC being made today can convert DSD; otherwise, the DAC is not marketable. I bought an ifi Nano iDSD DAC for $189 that will convert up to DSD(128). Probably, the only audiophiles today that don't have DSD capability are diehard vinyl fanatics. The Oppo BDP-103 sells for $500 and plays just about everything digital including DSD files directly from a USB flash drive.
If you are serious about copying vinyl to digital, you might consider buying a TASCAM DA-3000 , which will record at nearly any digital resolution from 16/44 up to DSD(128) and it sells for $1000. TASCAM often has sale rebates and I bought mine for $800 from Sweetwater during one their rebate offers. The TASCAM DA-3000 also is a great sounding playback device for commercial DSD files because it accepts a USB flash drive for playback. It records only on SD and CF cards. I find its DAC to be one of the best sounding DACs for playing commercial DSD files up to DSD(128).
As far as file size and memory requirements are concerned, storage space is pretty cheap these days. I buy 4-TB external USB hard drives for $130 each.
Edits: 03/27/15
really?
John give your head a shake, please!
if a professional Sony is not "serious" enough for you, fine, but considering you've NEVER heard my rips, your advice reeks of pretentious "reality". (and we are aware of your "issues" there)
DSD, I have no interest, simply because the DSD requirement has never been fully established within my not so (big gulp) ... "serious" ... system.
tb1
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