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Greetings,
I'm interested in buying a vinyl performance of Elgar Cello Concerto. Of course, Du Pre seems to be the quintessential performance and I absolutlely love it. I have it on cd but now would like it on vinyl. Du pre, according to Discogs has made two records - 1. with Barbarolli, 1965 HMV 2. with her husband Barenboim CBS 1976
Whilst both performances are great I'm wondering if anyone has a preference or knowledge about the best engineered - sonic quality pressing.
Does anyone have the Paul Tortelier Vinyl also HMV 1973 ?
Your comments would be most grateful.
Thx so much, Bob
"You have to leave something to your imagination"
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Thank you all for your comments,
Bob
"You have to leave something to your imagination"
I have had the Barenboim and was not too excited about it. The Barbirolli strikes me as a keeper as it is exciting.
Thank you for your comments Rushton & Par
perhaps owning Du pre and Tortelier is a good goal.
Has any one listened to the mono version of Du pre? Often I find original monos offer more presence and have a clarity/honest reproduction of the event than the stereo . May be its because they haven't been 'adjusted' for stereo as is sometimes the case. However, may be this was recorded and released as mono & stereo at the same time (as may be the case according to Discogs).
(BTW listening now to Marilyn Horne on SXL - Handle Arias - getting goosebumps)
Thx, Bob
"You have to leave something to your imagination"
If you compared like-with-like then there's minimal difference between the late'65 mono/stereo 'dash 1' matrices of the Du Pre (just a trace more 'attack' in the mono's timpani)
ASD stereo matrices are anyway superseded by that in the 2LP 'Impressions' set (early 80's).
Mono versions become scarce from around this point to EMI's (and others, excepting Decca, in '69) discontinuing dual-inventory in '67.
Yes, as Uwe says, the mono and stereo are the same recording.
When these discs came out in 1965 few people had stereo players, at least in the UK where these records originate. Therefore record companies would commonly issue the same recording in a mono and a stereo version. My memory of the time is that the stereo versions often came out a few weeks after the mono disc and cost a few more shillings (we were still with a pre-decimal currency then).
This situation continued until the end of the decade when most releases started to appear as stereo only. I suppose the Beatles "Abbey Road" was the watershed in 1969 as the first of their albums that was conceived as a stereo recording from the beginning and which has no mono equivalent.
I have both ASD 655 and ALP 2106. Although I'm a big mono fan in this case I'm a bit disappointed with the mono version and prefer the stereo. This is the same recording.
Uwe
I agree with PAR's comments above about the two Du Pre performances. If you can only have one of them, the Barbaroli performance coupled with the marvelous Janet Baker's Sea Pictures is my way to go.
The Tortelier is often the recording I pull out again and again to hear, however. It is not as "white hot" as the Du Pre but rather has a magisterial intensity that I find completely beguiling. Where Du Pre can be over the top emotionally, Tortelier and Boult find a more centered line pulling on deeper emotional currents.
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This is an easy one. I have both of the Du Pre recordings that you mention and there are at least four reasons for picking the Barbirolli (EMI ASD 655):
1. It is a better performance - hence its legendary status.
2. It has a better recorded sound. CBS Discs of the era of the Barenboim recording are not generally sought after for sonic wonder.
3. The Barbirolli is coupled with Janet Baker's luminous performance of Sea Pictures - another classic recording in its own right.
4. The Barbirolli is available in an audiophile 180gm issue from (I think) Testament.
The Tortelier recording is also superb. I regret that I do not possess it but heard it only a couple of weeks ago. It would be my choice for a further recording of the concerto in preference to the Du Pre/Barenboim one.
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