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In Reply to: RE: Plastic inner sleeve damage to vinyl posted by vinyl*junkie on December 15, 2014 at 19:08:36
a picture of the damage....sigh!!!!
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Ohh.. I know that look well, it's hazing caused by contact with the plastic inner or the sticker (if it's a plastic sticker like those made to attach to the inside of windows). It produces a light hissing noise on playback. If it doesn't clean off with isopropyl, I'm afraid you're stuck with it, the vinyl has suffered an irreversible chemical reaction.I've lost a good few LPs thanks to those old pvc/plastic inners. My advice to anyone is to check your collections and get your records out of those sleeves as quickly as possible! I think it was in the early 1970s that record companies mostly stopped using them and switched over to poly-lined inners (the slightly more opaque, frosty material) which are completely safe from my experience, and those kind of sleeves (either paper-backed or "nude") are what you can buy new today.
The old-style inners don't always cause hazing; I find plenty of old records that came with them and are still perfect. It's just not worth the risk though. Buy the modern inners in bulk and swap them all out!
BTW, that certainly is a rare record! My commiserations :-(
Edits: 12/16/14 12/16/14
yep, the sticker is the kind that sticks to the window, no glue.
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Wood glue is probably reasonably safe, at least compared to chemicals.
Without feeling it I don't know if the record has change composition in that spot, or if it is just sticky glue on the surface.
Nice record, good luck.
it's not sticky at all. i fear the composition has changed. if that's so i guess that's permanent?
damn!!!
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I say, don't give up yet. Even if the damage can't be entirely removed visibly, cleaning with the right solvent might significantly improve sq. I have a few LPs with that plastic imprint problem, but it isn't that common ime. I've never tried to get rid of it.
If it's any consolation, that LP was reissued last month, for the first time on vinyl since 1992...
funny thing is that i bought the re-issue and the pressing is horrible! lots of pit marks all over the vinyl and i have gone through 3 copies. i pulled out my 1992 Holland pressing cause i was thinking to myself "well at least i still have this awesome pressing from 1992".
D'OH!
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I can believe that. Reissues these days are pretty much a lottery. If the problem's not a deteriorated master tape, it's a botched remastering, or non-existent QC at plants working flat out beyond capacity using over-pressed stampers with low-grade materials to maximise profit.
For every reissue created with care and attention to detail, there are 20 cash-ins with one or all of the above flaws. It's never fun to replace a well-played 50 year old record with a reissue that sounds worse and is actually noisier!
Possibly. Time to try the glue I guess.
FWIW I have seen glue that was spilled on to rusty/tarnished steel, it clean it right up.
Worth a shot.
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