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In Reply to: RE: No guarantees... posted by EdAInWestOC on November 24, 2014 at 17:11:27
Actually, in terms of hires, there are some good ones out there. The recent Led Zeppelin I-V, The Doors, Grateful Dead and Dr. John sets. If one knows how to get the most out of hires, (and that's no easier than getting the best out of vinyl, IMO), the results can be quite revelatory. Even if you already have the old vinyl.
In general though, I agree. If you have the record you've already got the best of that title and there's no need to get it again.
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I bought the Super Deluxe boxed releases that came with the coffee table book (pretty cool stuff), the vinyl, 2 CDs and a card with a download code for each release.
I compared the 24/96 FLACs from the new LZ downloaded stuff to the Classic Records and (in the case of LZ II) the MoFi pressing waveforms. Its is obvious that the new LZ hi-rez download releases are compressed when compared to the Classic or MoFi pressings. My ears get tired and feel assaulted when I listen to the new stuff for too long. Its a hint that something is too compressed (at least to my ears). Yeah, I know that LZ is pretty cranked up to begin with, but it really doesn't need additional compression.
If you search around the vinyl asylum you will find a prior post from me that includes a screen shot from Sony SoundForge that shows two waveforms from a track (IIRC it was from LZ II) that immediately shows the added compression in the new hi-rez download.
Its a shame because other than the compression the release is very clean and could have been a world class reissue. I guess that Jimmy Page is pretty deaf after all those years of standing in front Marshall stacks.
Ed
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No doubt, the new masters have more compression than older versions. My Barry Diament cd of LZI rates an 11 and the new version comes in at a 9. Nothing I would call abusive though, and all the waveforms look really good. Certainly no "flat top" waveforms that have become commonplace in the last 15 years.
Still, dynamic range is only one aspect. There are so many other positives about these masters that I can't dismiss them out of hand because of that. I don't find them tiresome at all. In fact if I want to hear I thru III these days, I will go for the new hires versions rather than my original vinyl. They have pretty much brought these albums back from the dead for me.
Thanks for pointing out your earlier waveform posts. I missed those before.
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