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I got this with Audio-Technica AT100E/G a popular combo that goes for $100 and less (and more??) on eBay; I went way less! In AT literature I believe they state it is the MG-10, so magnesium.
Overhand has three adjustments, three adjacent threaded holes so no continuous adjustment. Likely it limits usage to AT cartridges as well.
It is heavy ... the AT100E is playing now and I'm enjoying it ... it replaced a Dyna 20X so if it was a dog it would be abundantly obvious ... that's saying something for the AT100E ... likely getting a big boost from the slab of magnesium. Have to get my OC9 ML/II mounted!!
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It's a shame your headshell has only incremental mounting holes for overhang adjustment because just a fraction of millimeter will move the null-points significantly. I own the MS-8, which weighs 8-grams and has an adjustable stud that slides in and out for overhang and azimuth adjustment. You can use your headshell most effectively with Denon DL-301/II, DL-304, or DL-S1 cartridges, all of which have mounting slots for overhang adjustment.
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Sorry, little slow I guess. lolOh great, now I have an excuse to try one of those, thanks John! Arrrg ... the DL-301/ii since no one seems to have that one;)
Your's is Denon DL-S1? Have a pic in tonearm?
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Edits: 09/20/14
The only close up picture I have is with my DL-S1 mounted in a Technics headshell. I'm using the rear slots on the cartridge in order to extend it forward far enough to achieve Löfgren's "A" alignment with null-points of 66-mm and 120.9-mm.
The more I think about it, those Denon cartridges might not be the best match for such a heavy headshell. They are somewhat high-compliance cartridges. I owned a DL-301/II and I measured its compliance at 24 x 10 -6 cm/dyne. I believe my DL-S1 has slightly lower compliance at around 17 x 10 -6 cm/dyne, but it is the most expensive. I'm not familiar with the DL-304.
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Here is one with my Audio Technica MS-8 headshell
Yeah the AT cartridge is very light it seems.
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This one seems to sound great! Gotta handle it, it a slab, like a Space Odyssey monolith man. All ya need is longer bolts for the Denons, and don't sweat 1 mm on overhang.Maybe it will be the little thing that sends the OC9 into the big leagues.
Thanks for asking :) Listening to the Stones - Undercover ... it has all the funk it should have, seems like a very decent cartridge.
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Enjoying both my Dyna 20X and main cartridge a Benz M2, can't get enough of that one, really nice.
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Edits: 09/19/14
I think you have a misconception about the importance of overhang. If you take a 9-inch tonearm aligned for null-points of 66-mm and 121-mm, and you increase overhang by just one-millimeter while keeping linear offset and mounting distance the same, the new null points will change by 10-mm each. Furthermore, the null-points will now be 20-mm closer together yielding significant inner and outer groove distortion. This is from sliding the cartridge forward only 1-mm in the headshell with all other adjustments remaining the same.The difference between Löfgren A and Löfgren B is only 0.5-mm overhang. That's right; both alignments have the same exact linear offset and mounting distance, but Löfgren B has 0.5-mm longer overhang and this moves the null-points from 66-mm and 120.9 mm to 70.3-mm and 116.6-mm. Overhang is very critical.
Good luck,
John Elison
Edits: 09/20/14
Probably the most ridiculous design for mounting cartridges that could ever be invented....
It could deliver correct overhang with only three of my 38 cartridges...😫
Sure.....having movable armpods would allow me to change the P to S mounting distances.....but then the moronic design of the headshell prevents the 'twisting' of the cartridge to allow for correcting the alignments at the two nulls...😱
And this from a company which produced many of the finest MM cartridges ever made..⁉️
I didn't even re-sell my MG-10 headshell......I merely put it out of its misery with my size 9 hobnailed workers boot...🔨🔫💣
If you align a cartridge according to Loefgren, Baerwald, and then Stevenson this will give you 3 different overhangs. Each is "correct", i.e. each is only an approximation for a pivoting arm.
That's what I'm getting at in saying that there is some play, or forgiveness when it comes to overhang in a practical sense.In past I once had to mount a Benz Ref 3 in such a way that the overhang was too long. Could it have been better, I suspect, but it was very fine sounding all the same.
The alignment of the stylus to the groove is far far more important than getting overhang exactly correct.
"but then the moronic design of the headshell prevents the 'twisting' of the cartridge to allow for correcting the alignments at the two nulls."
Well if the cartridge itself is threaded, then yes, otherwise other than a badly off-kilter cantilever there should be no problem. How did you arrive at that assumption anyway??
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Edits: 09/20/14
Then we have no argument...😎
Many folk wish to KNOW which geometry they have set as there are different distortion levels for each one and they occur in different zones of the playing surface...👀
Stevenson has higher distortion levels than Loefgren A....but with your method of inaccuracy, you could have perhaps 10 times the max distortion level of Loefgren A without realising it..😱
And every tonearm manufacturer designs his off-set headshell angle to suit one or other specific alignment geometry in relation to the tonearm mounting distance.
If you select a different geometry from that one.....the zenith angle of the cartridge cantilever will NOT be correct as the null points have been moved...😵 So 'twisting the cartridge within the headshell to align the new zenith is necessary.
You will also find that a significant number of cartridges do not have their cantilevers exactly parallel to the cartridge body so that twisting the cartridge body in the headshell to align the cantilever (as viewed from the front of the cartridge) is required for correct playback...👍
If you have access to a lathe it's a simple matter to mill slots into it. With this lite modification it is as good as an Ortofon LH 6000/8000/9000, and much cheaper.
Nice job! I was considering doing just that! :)
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My Ortofons LH-8000 are 'wood'......😘
Quite a different 'cartridge compatibility index' to metal headshells....⁉️
I got mixed up in mentioning the woody. I have one of those and several each of the magnesium and composite Orts.
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