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In Reply to: RE: Wondering how it would sound on a Linn (or in my case, Linn-Like) table posted by Dman on August 26, 2014 at 12:15:24
the tonearm dampers on my LP12/Ittok and couldn't be happier. YMMV
By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox.
Galileo Galilei
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Whose carbon-fiber arm base is that? I have the stock MDF(?) one from the 80's, and while I am under the impression that it may have warped, I noticed that that back of yours doesn't sit level to the plinth (or is it the angle of the photo?).
I know what the (sonic) issues surrounding this, but am very curious about your armboard (Sonics, make, cost, etc).
Dman
Analog Junkie
by the person who may have been the best at that at the time and maybe all time, we focused more on getting the bounce right and less on the cosmetic aspects of the setup so the armboard isn't level with the plinth, which is a custom-made(by me)heavier, taller, thicker, denser wood (Australian Lacewood)than the standard plinth. I think it and the CF subchassis and armboard (thanks AndyR, Asylum inmate and general good guy)make the LP12 a more neutral table than any stock LP12, of the same vintage, that I've heard.
By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox.
Galileo Galilei
I was taught the same thing by my "Linn-Professor"- get the bounce right and all else should fall into place.
I know my armboard IS warped though. Besides, MDF, or whatever Linn calls this stuff, isn't the best armboard material anyway.
As I mentioned to another respondant- it is now on my "upgrade bucket list" along with a better motor PSU and a new mat (probably a Herbie's).
BTW, I don't know if you've seen pics of my FrankenLinn DIY table around here, but it actually follows a similar construction idea- the plinth (oak) is a good full inch or so higher than the stock Linn and is thicker as well (very dense and dead to the knock), and has all the appropriate bracing built and put in place, ala Linn. I'm not using a CF chassis (yet)- I have a pre Cirkus one from the late 80's that my Linn dealer/buddy gave me when I inquired (I think he thought I couldn't build something as good. Ha!). I may swap out the bearing at some point, but that is not a priority at the moment (and the cost of course! YIKES)...
Thanks for your thoughts on things!
Dman
Analog Junkie
Risabet's armboard is not, in fact, a Cetech one (as RichardP suggested) but was supplied by me - oh, 10 or 12 years? ago.
At that time, the Cetech guy had closed down in England but hadn't yet re-appeared in New Zealand; having just installed my Cetech I thought it would be a shame if other people couldn't experience the product - so I found a hi-tech boat-builder and set about supplying them (which involved some R&D, so 3 of them were wasted! :-(( ). Then Cetech came alive again and I realised that I couldn't compete - given he was making them himself, while I was paying said boat-builder to do it.
Like RichardP, I thought the CF-composite subchassis plus armboard was a tremendous step up from the stock Linn, pressed steel subchassis and MDF armboard - the improvement IMO mainly coming from the rigid connection between armboard and subchassis, which allowed more low level detail to come through.
I still have a couple in a box in my shed, if anyone is interested.
Regards,
Andy
Been very busy at work (though not so busy to ignore AA). Kind of sucks that we can't use a personal email account here (but considering its Avionics...)!
Dman
Analog Junkie
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Dman
Analog Junkie
Looks like a Cetech to me, but I could be wrong. Back when I owned my LP-12, I thought the Cetech was a very nice improvement over the stock MDF arm board and its associated tiny wood screws.
What results/differences did you hear?
My stock armboard is actually bolted on with M6 25mm bolts and nuts (with the appropriate screw holes enlarged on the sub chassis). So I don't think stability really an issue. The board itself just seems really, really cheap in the first place.
I can't believe this the best that Linn had to offer in the 80's? Really???
Dman
Analog Junkie
the stock and the CF subchassis and armboard are giant. See my review from when I installed it.
By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox.
Galileo Galilei
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