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In Reply to: RE: Mravinsky's scorching '47 Shostakovich 8th...worth a listen posted by jdaniel@jps.net on July 19, 2014 at 08:55:07
If that's D 09615-7 then it was recorded 25 Feb.1961 (the excellent-sounding HMV/Melodiya #12 - ASD 2598 - was also recorded 1961)...
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Thanks for looking, but no, it's '47, according to notes.
Well...then I suppose it's best that you believe The Comrade's 'notes'.
However; if the catalogue number is as I state, then there's online info as to the correct date associated with this release - which, at least to me, appears to be that you have snapped - and also as reviewed - and what I had - before I binned it - as it was so cruddy (but retain a 2001 minidisc off-air dub of the BBC recording from the RFH).
complete with 20 bit digitally remastered coughing!
First movement is pretty darned good in this one as well, coughing and all.
Without checking (not listened to it for more than a decade) I can't recall if it was recorded in stereo: my dub was done that way - and was a tight fit onto the 74"59 MD - so much so that I had to dub a small end section from cassette as was running out of space - then removed some bumpf from the start and edited it in...
The RVW 9 is superb (I re-recorded that onto the MD from a second transmission) - and later made a 24bit transfer - which sounds superior to 16bit CD-RW - despite the FM/MD sources.
I've no idea how the BBC recorded this RFH material; presumably landline to the studio; but a 1968 Gerhard Sym 4 (BBC/Davis) had adjacent-channel interference - which suggested a tuner..
Well thank you for the clarification, but I still found myself moved, even with the bad sound.The box says MK 219-B and the Lp's say TY35/XII 538-63. Vinyl feels like 200 gram, interestingly enough.
Edits: 07/20/14
'63' was the year-introduction of the cutting equipment (next along: '68' / '74'..).
These thick mid-60's mono LP's should ('always') have the 'D' (or '33D') info: ie. D-01460: a genuine 'courtesy of the Nazi's' 1947 recording (and never on CD) - as repeated on the dead-wax; matrix/catalogue #'s being the same (and why the discography indicates Mravinsky's 1947 version was on 4 sides..)
Edits: 07/20/14
Symphony No. 8 in c minor, Op. 65
Dedicated to Mravinsky
World premiere by Mravinsky/USSR State Symphony Orchestra on 1943/11/4 in Moscow
1947/6/2, Leningrad, Studio, Monaural; RE: Ilya Grodzensky
LP: Old Melodiya D 03620/1 (1957) B-560
LP: Melodiya D 032639/40 (1972) B-560
LP: Ariola SQ 89519XDK (1976), 3 sides in 2 disc set
****LP: Artia MK 219B (1964), 2 disc set****
CD: BMG 74321-29406-2 (1996)
CD: BMG(Japan) BVCX 4018 (1997)
CD: JVC VICC 40120 (1992), 6 disc set
LP: Shinsekai MK 1081 (1975)
1960/9/23, London, Royal Festival Hall, Live, the Composer in attendance; RE: na
CD: BBC Legends BBCL 4002-2 (1998)
This recording was broadcast on 1960/9/23 by BBC Radio.
1961/2/25, Grand Hall of Leningrad Philharmonic, Live, Monaural; RE: Nikolai Kustov
****LP: Old Melodiya D 09615/7 (1962), 3 sides in 2 disc set B-560****
CD: BMG(Japan) BVCX 8026 (1998), 4 disc set
LP: Bruno 14064L (1965)
Even WERM/supplement 3 has the wrong info for that Glazunov.Sym.8; it's stated to be conducted by Mravinsky..
Mravinsky's 1953 Shostakovich Symphony 7 is listed there as D-01380/83 (so M.Herman is in error - as now see he's also claiming that for the 8th...so your list is more likely right for the 1947 version's original cat #'s)
Anyway: Mravinsky's 1953 Shostakovich 7th has no bass: at least in the late '80s white-label mastering (c/w Oistrakh's VC.1 - Melodiya D-033449/52 - with a different set #)
I find the 1st mov't to be one of Shostakovich's most "perfect" vision of "dread" and/or "desolation."
Oistrakh's interpretation is pretty much the same in each, but Mravinsky's accompaniment is far more intense than Mitro's.
I have it on a clean "Monitor" copy, sound is OK.
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