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Russia pretty much survived on her own until 1943, when they began winning e.g. Kursk, and never looked back.

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Timbo in Oz

In Reply to: RE: "Don't forget that the US and the UK provided a lot of the arms to the USSR to do this." posted by Michael Samra on February 05, 2017 at 15:25:20

The aid from the USA was mostly after that and was mostly trucks and jeeps.

Their survival until 1943 is almost completely theirs.

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Tim Bailey

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RE: Russia pretty much survived on her own until 1943, when they began winning e.g. Kursk, and never looked back. - Michael Samra 21:57:02 02/05/17 (4)
They lost 25m people that's a big deal.We did supply them with military aid and that was a well publicized fact.Nobody had the production capability we had in the US at that time but the USSR was a big proponent in helping defeat the 3rd Reich.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
- http://www.historynet.com/russias-life-saver-lend-lease-aid- (Open in New Window)
Edits: 02/05/17
- and yet the tiny population of the UK received 3 times as much aid under Lend Lease. - Timbo in Oz 02:27:31 02/06/17 (3)
  So, it doesn't look to me that lend lease was a critical factor for Russia.
  And, there's no data in that article.
  Russia had a very large industrial sector. Russian production was a big factor in winning the war. No less important than the USA's.
  Their weapons, esp. tanks and artillery, were at least as good as anyone elses. The Yak 3 and the Sturmovik were the best in their class.
  Believe what you like, Mike, but I'll stick to what I know to be true.
  
  Warmest
  
  Tim Bailey
  
  Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
  
  Edits: 02/06/17
  - RE: and yet the tiny population of the UK received 3 times as much aid under Lend Lease. - Eli Duttman 18:05:09 02/06/17 (2)
    The T34 was the best tank. Soviet artillery was effective, by sheer weight of numbers, not great accuracy. German officers had great respect for American artillery. "Acquired the target quickly."
    Yes, Russian production was very important. However, consider the fact that the military output of U.S. industry was barely bettered by the combined efforts of all the other belligerents on both sides.
    
    Eli D.
    
    Edits: 02/06/17
    - RE: and yet the tiny population of the UK received 3 times as much aid under Lend Lease. - Michael Samra 21:39:56 02/06/17 (1)
      Exactly
      We had production levels that were unreal. We had GM,Ford,Chrysler,Studebaker,Kaiser,were a few of the largest companies running full war time production while suspending all consumer vehicle production.
      
      "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
      - RE: and yet the tiny population of the UK received 3 times as much aid under Lend Lease. - Eli Duttman 03:49:04 02/07/17 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: and yet the tiny population of the UK received 3 times as much aid under Lend Lease. posted by Michael Samra on February 06, 2017 at 21:39:56
        
        While consumer vehicle production was suspended, the U.S. was the only "player" to increase civil industrial output. All the other nations at war cut civil production WAY back.
        
        Eli D.

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