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In Reply to: RE: KEF Reference 103.2 Speakers posted by AudioSoul on July 04, 2016 at 10:59:48
I have a pair. I take em out sometimes and like em. They are very easy to listen to and place. I couldn't tell you how they do against modern speakers though. I tapped out of paying attention to new stuff awhile ago.
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The new drivers have come a LONG way from the older stock. However after a point driver companies are just trying to reinvent the wheel.
So far the only new speaker I would give any attention to is the Zaph SR-71 in kit form. Otherwise you can keep 99% of the new ones.
Also they don't make a good old fashion 3 way speaker. Every thing is designed as a monitor / subwoofer type setup. Being old school, after the shock, it isn't all that bad and has more WAF
Nice kit and that makes sense about the drivers. I guess what made the old classics special was the designer's ears.
Speaking of 3ways. What are some good ones that go with tubes? I have access to a set of Avid 230's and JBL L100 but I figured that they'd mate with solid state.
The L-100's work very well with a tube amp. So do KLH 5's or 12's. Bozak B302's or the bigger B305's. Some later speakers are OK with tubes, particularly if they have flat impedance curves like the JBL L-110 or L112 or the Vandersteen 2's. Speakers from the 50's and 60's are all designed for use with tube amps; but as you get to the late 60's/early 70's they work best with capacitively coupled SS amps. Later designs from the middle 70's and later are best with direct coupled amps in my opinion. It's just a matter of speaker designers reacting to changes in the amplifier trends; but they lag behind by a couple of years.
The source impedance of the amp (it's what Damping Factor is calculated from) plus the impedance of the speaker cables forms a voltage divider with the impedance of the speaker. Since the tube amps have higher source impedance the effect is greater. If you use a graphic EQ, you can make a late model 3 way sound like it's driven by an SS amp. It's a matter of setting the sliders to the inverted shape of the speaker's impedance curve. I have done it, and it works just like the theory suggests it should. I used an Audio Control "Octave" model EQ. A 1/3 octave EQ would be better as you can get a more precise match of curve shape.
Jerry
You should repost this since you have so many options if you want to buy vintage or just used.
I use my SR-71 with tubes and they do sound great. However it does require subwoofer. But that's a big step.
At first I was pretty freaked out about using a monitor sub setup. After I got used to the "shock" I started to like it more than the old style big box three way speaker. In truth 99% of your real music is above 50Hz and the bass is simply just muscle work.
As I was told by a knowledgeable source "why stress your amp and why have your speakers force out a 30Hz tone that in truth only ends up adding distortion to your speakers".
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