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In Reply to: RE: ADS/Dynaco Comparison posted by raymeedc on February 06, 2016 at 13:41:27
Depends on your amplifier. Most - and again most ADS speakers sound very similar to JBL.
Many - and not all but again many - were rated 4 ohms but did dip below 2 ohms and could be a problem with some amplifiers.
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except, possibly, JBL and (vintage) Quad ESLs.
Most JBL loudspeakers (including all of the vaunted JBL monitors I've heard to date) send me running from the room due to their brightness and aggressiveness.
most ads speakers are very smooth, almost polite, and very ear-friendly to me/to my tastes.
all the best,
mrh
We must have very different ears.
I don't know of any overly bright and boomy ADS speakers. Perhaps you might cite an example that relates to your experience.
I can't think of a more different comparison to L100s and 810s.
We're on the same page as far as JBL vs ADS. Their sound couldn't be more different. I've found ADS speakers (I've owned a pair of 1230s since '83) to be among the most neutral transducers on the market. Forward and in your face? Not mine, and not any pair I've yet heard. Shows you how subject this stuff is.
When I first heard ADS for myself, ( a pair of L710) I was struck by how neutral they were. When I first owned ADS and compared them side by side to what I owned at the time (AR2a. EPI 100, etc.) I was struck by how 'fast' they sounded in comparison. Transients like jazz horns and symphony crescendos seemed to be much faster and more dynamic through the ADS using the same amp and source. I guess you might think of that as the ADS sounding 'brighter', but I don't think that's it. The other thing that struck me about the ADS is the dispersion and imaging. When I was physically close to one of the ADS speakers, it did not drown out the sound from the other. I could still hear what the other one was doing.
--Matt
"When you think everything is someone else's fault, you will suffer a lot."
--Dalai Lama
I have owned JBL L100's. I thought they were okay. I did have a pair of JBL Nova 88's, which are actually very similar to L100's with the same size cabinet, but are a two way with a 12" woofer and cone tweeter. And I think they even sold a kit with a midrange and crossover so you could convert the 88 to an L100 equivalent. Sometimes I even miss the Nova 88's, I thought they sounded good on low stands angled back with the tweeters on the bottom and the woofers on top. They were very efficient too. The only JBL's I own now are a pair of L19 with an 8" woofer and cone tweeter. I think they sound good, and you can play them surprisingly loudly with a 5 watt per channel 6BX7 tube amp.
--Matt
"When you think everything is someone else's fault, you will suffer a lot."
--Dalai Lama
It's kinda hard to put in words exactly what a speaker sounds like. But the one thing I am sure of is basically they both sounded like they were in your face.
Did I like JBL - not really! Compared to today multi driver speakers of that era were on the crude side. Would I like to even own either - no!
Multi driver speakers were really meant for "show".
If the original post wants to find out how they sound then I suggest he just go and buy the damn things already.
I (the OP) agree that I'll never really know until I've owned & operated a pair myself in the environment they'll be projecting from. I've got a very nice pair of Dynacos already. I'll be keeping an eye out for a set of L520/570s, they seem to be what I'm looking for. Along with my other related research, my thanks to everyone for helping me sort out the different models & your opinions, which have given me the info I need to make a more informed decision than would otherwise have been possible...... Guitars, Recumbent Trikes, whatever your area of intense interest, I love hobbyist driven forums!
Another thing that ADS did better was have more consistent directivity across the range using smaller dome midrange than competing JBL models.
The transition from the 2" mid to the tweeter was much smoother using the same crossover frequency - 4 kHz - as JBL models did using a 5" cone.
ADS are in a different league from JBL altogether.
"To Learn Who Rules Over You, Simply Find Out Who You Are Not Allowed to Criticize."
-Voltaire
Marantz PM6005 & '76 Kenwood KA-6100 integrated amps.
I'm using the Marantz PM8004 on a pair of Monitor Audio RX2's that go that low. So best guess - it should work???
I had a similar model Kenwood, the number I've long since forgotten? and it was tough as nails. So again it should not be a problem.
I had a McIntosh that would blow out if it had a low load.
The ADS's had a very JBL type sound. Bold and in your face. And I don't mean that in a bad way. I think that was because many of the models used multiple drivers and tweaked it towards a forward midrange.
That's what I'm looking for, something as highly representative/regarded/executed as the Dynacos for that East Coast Sound, but in the West Coast genre. Never had one of that ilk, I think I'd like a pair for variety.
I'm looking closest at the 500/520/570 series, as they seem to be closest to the Dynacos in dimension.
All this ADS talk lately has me looking for a pair.
I would like to find a larger 3 way floor stander.
Which of the bigger ADS were considered the most neutral?
Which were the friendliest to tube amps?
Thanks.
Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
I'd recommend anything in the L-series, particularly:
L-1290
L-1590
L-1230
L-1530
or possibly L-910.
later M-series were not nearly as good, and anything after that is not worth bothering with either (MV-40t, etc.)
I once regretted not stretching my budget back in '83 to buy the 1530s instead of the 1230s, which I still own. But not now, because the 1530s, while producing deeper bass and a wider sound stage, weighed over 100 (unwieldy come move time)pounds, and were really too big for the listening rooms I've had since the purchase.
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