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In Reply to: RE: Today's Goodwill find posted by desertorganist on February 17, 2015 at 20:32:35
Fisher speakers while being from NY are not voiced as a New England speaker. Avery Fisher had the speakers made during his reign voiced to what is now the Avery Fisher Music Hall, I think I just heard it is being renamed. He was an avid and accomplished musician and it would be natural he would want to recreate the sound of the hall where he listened to so many live performances. The hall some years ago was renovated and I understand the voicing is quite different now.
Bill Hecht's designed and built the speakers for Fisher. I am not sure if this model uses Hecht's dome tweeter. If so, they are more likely than not pretty much out of spec. There are rubber components that hardened and no longer work for their purpose and replacements are not available. Some years ago I discussed this with Bill and he was amazed anyone was even interested. He was honored persons would be interested in restoring these historic drivers but said as users, pull them and replace them with a new dome tweeter as any would be better.
These are old, er, vintage and likely the caps are due for replacement, also. When, and if, you work on them, make sure the driver to baffle is still decent. From memory the mounted from the inside using the cardboard permanently attached to the frame. Make sure the cardboard is not depressed at the screw holes. While not as critical as acoustic suspension, you still want a decent air seal.
Decades ago, in the days of the card man the Avery period Fisher speskers were considered one of the best small footprint speakers for those who wanted an excellent classical and jazz music experience. Just add your favorite tube or Avery period ss electronics. You can build a really nice period system around these for not a lot of dollars. To go totl, get one of the early receivers that had the ability to add a remote or the 500 receiver with the varactor front end that has the preset fm system. I can not remember if it also had the remote capability. If you get one with the remote ability, get the remote. They are rare and you will pay a premium but it is great. Think of all the guys you can upstage when they want to show off their remote and you flippidly tell them you system from the '60s have it. Really deflated ego. :)
The question then is what turntable. Finding the Lincoln Fisher changer and using it is an option but not a practical option for a daily driver. I would look for a Garrard 301, Thorens 124 II or, Empire 208. Not sure about pricing for of the AR today but, it is an option also but well, looks a bit out of place.
You end up with a real showcase system that actually, if you love classical and jazz, is also a great daily driver.
Don Brian Levy, J.D.
Toronto ON Canada
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My 1970 Allied catalog lists the Fisher 7 for $139.95, not 7 C which was no doubt a later model. The listing says a 12-inch woofer with 5 1/2 lb magnet, two 5-inch mid range and a soft=dome tweeter. Crossovers at 300 Hz and 2500 Hz, 60 watts maximum, nominal 8 ohms. Walnut finish 24 1/2 x 14 x 12" Shipping wt 47 lbs ea.In response to Brian I am using vintage Hecht-built dome mid-ranges in my DIY home theater front speakers and they work fine. I would not assume the tweeters were bad w/o some serious evidence that they are. They might be fine.
Edits: 02/18/15
lists a Fisher XP 7S so the XP 7C must habe been built between 1970 and 1974, my guess being 1972. The description lists twin 5 3/4 inch mid range speakers but one covering the lower mid range and the other covering the upper mid range with crossovers at 350 and 800 Hz. The description says twin 3-inch tweeters but no indication as to type.
Some of these features different from the XP 7 from 1970 MAY have appeared on the XP 7C
David
What I was suspecting is right.
7C Built 1972-73
The twin tweeters in the 7C are NOT Hecht domes but conventional 3-inch cones
The 7C has the 4-way upper and lower mid-range divide like the 7S in my 1974 guide
Edits: 02/18/15
7C Built 1872-73
Just in time for Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition . :)
8 is really close to 9 on a keyboard. Its fixed now
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