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In Reply to: RE: My Samra'd Sherwood S-5000 Came Today posted by geezerrocket on November 14, 2014 at 09:51:00
That thing looks new in the front and topside. If it sounds as good as it looks you can officially color me jealous. I wish I had kept my S5000II and S3000IV pair but I was rash, stupid, dumb, an idiot, a money grabber, foolish and, impetuous. Only salvation is the S9500c and S3300 sounds so good.
Don Brian Levy, J.D.
Toronto ON Canada
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Brian;
Don't be so hard on yourself, we all have our regrets.
Mine was a 1968 Plymouth Formula S Barracuda - Dumb, Dumb, Dumb!
Yeah, it's a pretty clean little S-5000 and I would never sell it. Partly because I would have to spend long green to get something better, and partly because I have too much money in it at this point.
I was a vegetarian for 15 minutes, until the main course.......Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
"Partly because I would have to spend long green to get something better, and partly because I have too much money in it at this point."
Interesting you didn't mantion the sound. :)
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The Sherwood sounds great 3 or 4 hours in.
I just didn't want to give it a 15 minute go and start gushing.
I was a vegetarian for 15 minutes, until the main course.......Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
I've seen dozens of S-5000, and that is one of the cleanest ones I've laid eyes on. To top it off, you got the early version with the bigger power transformer.
One thing I will tell you is NEVER TOUCH THE FACE PLATE PAINT!! Whenever you turn a knob, particularly the power/selector knob, make sure that your fingertips (and fingernails) do not touch the face plate. It will eat the paint right off! Never use any sort of cleaning solution either. Just don't touch it, and you'll never need to clean it.
It won't be long before the word is finally out on these amps, so you really scored. Stash away a pair of 7199s for the future, and maybe some 6P14P or whatever flavor of output tube you like. You'll never sell that amp, nor should you.
-SF
SF;
I'm running a strong quad of 7189 Amprex Bugle Boys at this time, however, I do have a matched quad of 6p14p-er tubes ready to go in. I also have a pair of NOS Sylvania 7199's.
So far I have been playing around with 12ax7's - Siemens, and Telefunken smooth plates. The Teles seem to have a little more detail and air on the top end and the Siemens have the edge in bass. Since this particular Sherwood is in no way lacking bass, I left the Telefunkens in.
The amp has about 35 hours on it so far and it is really beginning to open up. I suspect those Teflon caps Mikey put in take a bit longer to loosen up than the Russian pio's he normally installs.
Thus far I have compared the S-5000 with a Jolida 502 and a completely rebuilt and re-tubed Fisher 500c. I don't want to disparage that gear, but it was obvious to anyone that could hear that the Sherwood completely outclassed them both.
The phono section in the Sherwood is the real surprise as it sounds sublime. It has a ton of detail and depth, but only up to a point. I'll explain; The highest output cartridge I have lying around is 3.5 mv which plays fine at normal listening levels, but won't play at spirited levels. I suspect that the phono section would like to see around 5 mv so as to have more headroom. No matter, I'm rebuilding my L75 Lenco at this time to accommodate a 12" Jelco or Ortofon arm to run with a Denon 103r and a diy Cinemag SUT.
This clean little Sherwood hot rod at 20 wpc sounds H-U-G-E !! In fact, it sounds closer to 60 wpc.
Mikey hit this rebuild out of the park! To say that I'm pleased would be a gross injustice - I'm ecstatic!
I don't have enough time on it at this point to do a full on review because the speakers are new (Altec/GPA 802, Crites 1526 cast woofers), the interconnects are new (Nordost Heimdall), the DAC is new (PS Audio Nuwave), and I have some new room treatments.
Once I get a handle on things I will have a friend come over and shoot a video and upload it to YouTube. He is a cameraman for a local cable TV channel so the quality should be better than the average shit on Youtube.
I was a vegetarian for 15 minutes, until the main course.......Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
Yup, been there. Sold off some stuff I should have kept. I guess that will teach me to stay off the Crack! I had those "what was I thinking" periods in my life. I just had to thin out the collection and start over again.
Geeze I wish I had some of that gear back.
charles
Are these sherwoods superior to Scott or Dynaco integrated amps? What makes them so special? The iron? The circuit?
Both the circuit and the iron make the S-5000 special, but the chassis and grounding may also be a factor. Mike, Don, Eli, or Brian would be the ones to explain as they have forgotten more than I will ever know about vintage Sherwood gear.
I have owned many vintage pieces from Scott, Fisher, Dynaco, Stromberg Carlson....This Sherwood S-5000 has been the best sounding, although I wish it had a headphone jack. I will say that I have owned a few Stromberg Carlson ASR 433's and the last one I had was a very fine sounding amp after rebuilt with new power supply, tubes, coupling caps, diodes etc.....
I have recently acquired a Audio Research SP3-a and a Harmon Kardon Citation II that will be heading to casa Samra in the Spring. That combo may, or may not surpass the S-5000 - dunno. The Sherwood S-5000 with big iron and 7189 output tubes is a special amp.
Of the vintage gear I have owned I liked the looks of the Fisher X-202-B best, but it fell short of the Sherwood's sonics. Besides, looks are a completely subjective category. I think the Corvette is uglier than a sack of smashed assholes, where as others believe they are the most beautiful car ever built.
I was a vegetarian for 15 minutes, until the main course.......Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
did someone say headphone jack:
http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=vintage&m=215601
yup. had to be a dealer install
yup. had to be a dealer install
To my knowledge the S-5000 did not come with a factory installed headphone jack.
Maybe the previous owner had it installed.
How do you like your Samra'd Sherwood thus far?
Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
I love the look of your Sherwood components.What year were they made?
Hi;
As near as I can tell 1959 or 60 on the amp. The tuner is probably a 1960 or 61.
I was a vegetarian for 15 minutes, until the main course.......Meat; It's the right thing to do. Romans 14:2
No doubt they are better now then they were when new with all of the mods.that Mikey did on them.
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