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In Reply to: RE: I didn't see the video on the Science Channel but I did find this. posted by mark.korda@myfairpoint.net on June 11, 2014 at 22:53:49
Dynaco, a poor man's McIntosh? Maybe if you are using Bose 901s with rotted surrounds. Dynaco may be many things but not even close to a Mc soundwise, in engineering or component quality. It might be closer to a very poor man's Sherwood. On 2nd thought, not even that, more like a poor man's EICO or Heathkit. I am talking cost, not sound. There I would vote for the EICO.
DYNA delivered a lot for the money at that time but every model except maybe the ST-35 is an exercise in cost cutting except the transformers that would be very good as expected.
The big selling point is not their sound quality as designed but, how much they can be improved through mods. Most other companies models do not exhibit such a delta with mods.
Don Brian Levy, J.D.
Toronto ON Canada
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I agree, I never had a Dynaco amp, but when I first got my MC30s I used a PAS 3 Dynaco pre-amp with Telefunken tubes. I soon got my MX110Z and when I put it in the system, the difference was amazing. Veils lifted, fuller sound, all the cliches. That was only a pre-amp, I can imagine that the difference between amps would be even greater.Somebody should tell the President of McIntosh that the word he wants is not conscientious but conscious.
Chad
Edits: 06/13/14
That's interesting. Back in the 70's I sold Mac at a retailer and bought a C-26 preamp from the factory. Loved it. Then a few years later a friend brought over a beat up PAS-3x. The difference was breathtaking... and not in the McIntosh's favor. Of course the C-26 was early solid-state Mac, which was all pretty much... awful. Dull, veiled, lifeless... and beautifully made. (I know of an MC250 used as a cue amp in a studio that was just taken out of service, still working just fine thank you, after over 40 years of almost 24/7 service.) And thankfully they did get their solid-state act together. I haven't heard any of their new stuff, but the 4100 receiver was really good.
WW
"A man need merely light the filaments of his receiving set and the world's greatest artists will perform for him." Alfred N. Goldsmith, RCA, 1922
Never compared the C26 to a PAS3x but didn't do one with the PAS and bother the PAT4 and PAT5. The Pats were worse than the PAS. As the Pats are of the same design generation as the C26 it would not surprise me if you preferred the PAS as it would be instilled with the classical tube sound. The C28 was as far as I am concerned the first stand alone Mc preamp that was worthy of the name.
Considering that persons now thrill after the sound of the Pats, Crown Iccky 150 and 15A and Citation 11, I can see the PAS being enjoyed. Back then these preamps enjoyed many until the next gen of designs came out and showed what a decent ss preamp could do. These early ss preamps also IMHO saved the tube as owners somewhat quickly realized the older tube preamps were much better and worth holding onto or getting.
Don Brian Levy, J.D.
Toronto ON Canada
Hi Tadlo and Shovel, thanks for the help. Dynaco, a poor mans McIntosh is not a term I made up,something I read. Most people who like Dynacos like to learn about the innards, and not have to pay for someone to service their stuff....Mark Korda
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