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In Reply to: RE: Vintage JBL Speakers? posted by Brian McGowan on June 03, 2014 at 09:39:39
Hi Brian,
While I am a big fan of vintage JBL in general in both their home an pro line, I exclude the 4431/L100. To my ears, they are hopelessly colored and not something I would want to spend a lot of time listening to. If I found a pair cheap, I would buy them to flip, but they are not what I want in my listening room. The build quality is excellent, but their diversions from neutral are unforgivable (think Yamaha NS10). I would much rather listen to your Lancer 44's.
Dave
Follow Ups:
THANKS DAVE for the advice!! I have the Lancers hooked up to a KLH 24 system I found dirt cheap several years ago that was missing the speakers!
Not Perffect,but not bad either! This combo sounds the best so far on the Lancers.
As you say, not perfect, but it definitely should work. The Lancers are very efficient. If you do decide to upgrade, I know from having Lancers in my own system (now at my brother-in-law's house),that Lancers will let the quality of the better upstream equipment shine through. Have you ever pulled the woofer out? It is a thing of beauty.
Dave
they were beautiful! I want spruce up the cabinets a little,but thats about it!Once I get my Fisher 800 B looked over I think they will have found a new home!
NT
Current JBLs in that 3-way 12" class are far better and a bargain, IMO. The 'pro' one - LS6332SR - in particular.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Hi Tim,
Even from the same era, the L110 is much more neutral.
Dave
I'm with you on the particular voicing chosen. By contrast, however, listen to a nice pair of L110s like inmate Jerry (Bold Eagle) has. They are dead neutral and make Advents sound a bit colored.
Ironically. legend has it that many rock recordings of that era were mastered using the 4310/4311 series. That might explain why that music sounds thin and recessed when played back with most speakers.
Maybe I should design a preamp with an L100/4310 de-EQ switch!
Dave
Here's a JBL supplied graph to assist in your reverse engineering:
Unfortunately, they'll never do much with first octave bass.
That graph helps explain the god-awful sound I remember from the L100s hung on the walls in a big lecture room in the music building way, way back when I was in college in the 1970s. For us music majors, there was no escaping those speakers; we all had to take music literature classes, and we all had to take Music 106a & 106b, History of Western Music, with portions of an incredible number of records played for our education. Everything sounded strident, and if the record was mastered stridently, it was even worse.
Oddly, the JBL system in our Camry sounds absolutely splendid. So I guess JBL can do neutral.
The JBL system in my Lincoln Mark VIII was the first car stereo I have had that I could listen to and enjoy classical music. The sound is excellent. JBL also made an L110 around the same time as they made the L100, and it is very neutral. Your school should have bought L110's!
Dave
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