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In Reply to: RE: Cool vintage speaker story posted by sanman on May 21, 2014 at 16:37:38
The problem is,I don't think the Quad ESL 57s,the KLH9s,the AR3s,the 1950s and 60s K-horns,several JBLs,Heil Air Motions, and many more, heard that they couldn't compete.
Honest amplification is better than excessive 2nd order distortion anytime.
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Michael,
What folks seem to forget is that human hearing hasn't changed in the last 50 years or so. Live music still sounds the same, and the speaker designers of the past didn't use a Garrard changer as the source for their listening tests. Most used master tapes. However, they did use amplifiers of the day in the appropriate price range.
Match up an older speaker with an appropriate amp and a good phono system, or one of the more "phono" sounding CD players and you have a terrific system. But, you do need to put the speakers back into their original context to hear how good they are.
Jerry
Michael,
While I respect your knowledge and its depth and generally agree with you in this case I am not in agreement generally.
One thing that disturbs me is so many speakers today need a subwoofer to get down there many old designs got down there without such an augmentation. Tweeter design in the dynamic driver technology is where I seem to find improvement. Back then high end was purposely limited due to record noise and hiss.
I may have just been lucky having had some of the finer midrange driver speakers and it is here I find new speakers really fall down. It may be as much the crossovers and crossover points as the newer drivers but I find almost all I have heard have the OLA dip and a veil or a lack of detail that is quite distracting.
It seems newer designs are more about the whizz bang than clean, faithful, uncolored smooth reproduction. Of course like all things audio these are very general observations and as I always have said speakers and their sound are very individualistic.
Don Brian Levy, J.D.
Toronto ON Canada
I really like the sound of some vintage speakers, including a few on Mike's brief list.
Misread what Mike said so we are in agreement even on this.
Don Brian Levy, J.D.
Toronto ON Canada
If it is any consolation, I still am not sure what he was saying.
Dave
I have a small pair of ESS LE20's, and while the highs are very clean, and extended, the midrange is where they fall short. Perhaps the consignment shop people aren't familiar with truly great midrange, since most modern speakers are two way with a 2.5khz crossover point.
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