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In Reply to: RE: Got my Magic Tubes today posted by ipdtt on August 24, 2015 at 17:08:58
MSA quote from his Blog...
"Usually you hear a difference right away, and if you listen you can often hear some quite sudden changes after 10 to 15 minutes. I thought something was broken first time I heard this. After 30-40 minutes the treble should become clearer and more spacious. After another half hour, the bass fills in. Removing the tubes collapses the sound - that's the best way to describe it - the soundstage shrinks, the frequency extremes close in, dynamics close in. It's shocking, at least on my system.
You might find that initially you lose some top end or 'air', but this should return after settling. If not, put the tubes somewhere else - some locations are just too sensitive to them and need less effect than the tubes provide."
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RadioWonder,I would like to know if you turn your system off at night and if you do dose it take time for the Magic Tubes to resettle (about one hour or more) before the enhancement of the Magic Tubes returns to your system?. My Magic tubes are in transit and your posts inspired me to order them.
Thank You for your posts your time and help,
~D
Wherever you go there you are.
Edits: 08/25/15
It is Monsoon Season here in Arizona, so I also unplug all my Audio and Video Gear during the Lightning Storms...
As long as you do not move the Magic Tubes from their location everything should be fine...
All my best to you... Have fun with the Magic Tubes...
Thanks RadioWonder.
~D
Wherever you go there you are.
Another tweek that does nothing for me. I have gotten to the point
that if there is no reasonable explanation of how something works it usually doesn't The Uptone Audio Regen and the Audioquest Jitterbug at least have valid explanations for how they work and they do. Powder in a glass tube. No way. There power chords are nice
Alan
"Another tweek that does nothing for me. I have gotten to the point
that if there is no reasonable explanation of how something works it usually doesn't."
An interesting notion. You have probably tried many more things than I have, but at this point I rather hold the opposite view: For me any explaination not supported by correlated measurements or structured testing defaults to bogus. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the tweak doesn't work.
This jaundiced view is likely a side effect of spending a lifetime in the electronics biz. I think without exception that everyone I've ever helped out of a sticky problem (and we all need help, a second set of eyeballs and gray matter, at sometime or another) was stuck because they were clinging to a belief, an explanation or assumption, that just wasn't true. And it happens to me too, none of us are immune and there is no stigma involved, it's simply how our minds work.
So from that background I don't buy the reasonableness of an explanation as being of much value because Engineers and Technicians are usually reasonable to a fault. But still we all get stuck from time to time...
So here are the magic questions that, over a cup of coffee, usually get things moving again:
-What's going on?
-What have you done?
-May I see your data?
Usually the person with the problem figures it out about step two... Just trying to explain a problem to someone else is a remarkable tonic!
So I question explainations but believe results. Certainly not a sure thing but the odds are with you.
Hmmm, my magic tubes should be arriving any day now...
Rick
I just think it is healthy to be skeptical. Otherwise who fall prey to all kinds of bull. I don't need an exact technical explanation of why something would work but just a hint of a possible reason that allows the possibility that it might work. There are a lot of tweaks out there that refer to quantum mechanics or Quantum electrodynamics as a possible explanation. I am positive that the creators of those tweaks don't have a clue what quantum dynamics really is. Richard Feneman, the late famous physicist once said that if someone tells you how electricity really works they are probably lying.
Alan
The website makes no claims at all based on theory. Nor is there even the slightest hint (that I saw, could be wrong) about the nature of those pellets in the tubes. (I was expecting "crystals".) And yet, guys are willing to take a flyer on them, probably because of the "money back guarantee". For the minimum investment of $49, it's a wonder he does not throw in a book on how to make millions in real estate overnight.
Further, I expect I will be criticized for my skeptical attitude. At least, one should try to do a blinded ABA trial before concluding that the tubes, or any other product like them, "does something". Placebo effect is very real, and none of us is exempt from it.
as a matter of fact it's a trait I cherish as it's kept me out of what may have become troubling, serious situations.
However I also cherish being open minded - probably more so than being skeptical - and in
this HOBBY have found balancing the two has worked out to the advantage of my ears hearing
better music from my system.
Blind ABA doesn't work for me, but listening and accepting what I hear (and not what I think I hear)
over a period of time frequently trounces any loss of a "rational" or "scientific" explanation for the results.
Not always, but frequently enough to make it a priority to keep my mind open.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
I still haven't listened but installed them on the interconnects of my DAC out. I have no expectations. I'll jut listen. I've been adding and changing my system for years and I do think I have some advantage in gauging change in that my components are all the same as in 2003
, just tweaks and power delivery improvement. That and I have tried s many tweaks and like you some to many don't help.
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