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In Reply to: RE: Logical impasse posted by Brian H P on July 07, 2015 at 11:09:29
There is musical information on a CD. I want to know what it sounds like after it passes my DAC into a headphone amp. How should the music sound on a set of headphones. Detail, attack, soundstage... etc , any and all info that I can extract . That is my reference that I am looking to duplicate on a set of speakers.
My assumption is that its easier to get good sound and a representation of the music from headphones than a speaker in a room.
What I want to do is shoot for what I am missing on my home system....amp, speaker cables and speaker vs what I know is on a CD.
It appears that , based on your responses...its not possible.
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One issue that might be decided upon as a result:
How good does your power amplifier sound when implemented as a headphone amplifier? A power amplifier is designed/intended for use with a different application than what headphones require.
Besides, taking a peak at the output stage via a pair of headphones won't reveal anything more than conjecture. It won't indicate how accurate the natural acoustics of the actual source material is from source to load. Like others have mentioned, the listening modality when listening to headphones is a different animal than when listening to loudspeakers within a room, and while hearing the listening environment itself, with very different issues to overcome.
"Detail, attack, soundstage... etc , any and all info that I can extract. That is my reference that I am looking to duplicate on a set of speakers."
OK, fair enough, but I wonder if those qualities can ever be realized to the same extent with ANY speakers as they can with good phones driven by a good dedicated headphone amp. Phones let you hear deeper into the recording because the drivers are right over your ears and external sound is at least somewhat blocked out.
Speakers have to interact with the room acoustic and compete with background noise, so you'll never get quite the same level of precision and detail from them. You can certainly find some speakers that do the detail-attack-soundstage thing better than others, and probably a nearfield setup with good studio monitors would get you the closest.
On the other hand, speakers capable of filling your house with dynamic, exciting sound with bass you can FEEL can be satisfying in a way that headphones just can't. I've heard some pretty good phones, but none that ever made me wanna get up 'n' boogie.
No one really knows what is on the cd. Every playback system will produce its own colorations of the sound. When I was engineering and we sent a master out to be mass produced what we got back never sounded the same as the master. If we played back the cd on our home systems it would sound different then played back in the studio control room. All you can do is put together gear that pleases you on the majority of music you listen to. Listening on headphones is a totally different experience then listening over speakers. You cannot compare the two
Alan
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