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In Reply to: RE: Question about Hi End Fuse (HiFi Tuning,Synergistic, etc) use posted by Old SteveA on May 04, 2015 at 10:04:01
To me the benefit is what they (might) bring to the table. Knowing the exact reasons why, is the booby prize to me with the biggest reason being there are probably at least a few factors and we'll never know what percentage of which is most important. Don't get me wrong it would be nice to know the reason why but I say we almost never really exactly know.
On tweaks like these, no really any, the important thing to me is do they provide benefit. A discussion of what they bring is important too. To me why has never mattered nearly as much. With fuses its pretty obvious that the very electricity that powers your piece of gear runs through it. But exactly what a "better" fuse might do that then gives the user the audible benefit is not totally known other than the general fact that power is transferring better from your wall to your gears circuits.
Also I'm not saying it isn't good to ponder and wonder and even take a stab at the reasons why something might or does improve things but it is the improvement itself that is key. Without this improvement we wouldn't even have a discussion of what it might be that does it. This is because things that do nothing seldom make it to the market and stay like fuses have. There are plenty of people here on AA that think they do nothing.
So this fuse thing is about the only tweak related to power delivery I haven't tried yet. One of the reasons is one of my amps has 5 fuses! The other main reason is I don't try anything that I cannot return for a refund if not happy. I haven't found a fuse seller with this policy and understand why to a point.
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Follow Ups:
OK, I've been hearing enough about fuse tweaking that I have decided to check out the water! In my case, I have ordered ceramic body replacement fuses from Digikey for all the power fuses in my gear. They should provide some noticeable benefit over the glass body fuses that are presently in place, according to reviews.
I'm not willing to spend a lot for the experiment and I believe that UL ratings are important, expecially for safety devices like fuses. I'll decide on audiophile fuses after I see what results I get with this experiment.
Mike
LOL !!!
I had a feeling that would be my answer !! So in a nutshell "Don't make yourself nuts over how certain things work only that they're adding a little more "magic" to the process"
I have my own theory about those who consider tweaking to be snake oil !
I can't decide if their skepticism of everything affects what they hear or
it's the opposite of that ?.
Any suggestions on which to try on my Burson Soloist & Metrum Hex DAC for
an economically challenged Audiophile ?
Cool and thanks for understanding the fun and humor in my reply too besides the audio stuff. I hope to take the fuse journey sometime soon too.
Signed;
Jealous
"If at first you don't succeed , keep on suckin' till ya' do suck seed"
Curly Howard- 3 Stooges- 1936
Unless you want to believe or choose to believe that each and every tweak is an upgrade. If you're in that category of believers, you'd be a very busy man keeping your system up to date with the latest tweak. The problem in evaluating "tweaks" is observer bias. ALL of us are subject to it. Thus the opinion of any one person, especially a person who just paid dearly for the item under review or equally a person with a cynical outlook, is suspect.
Note the experience I related above, where an expensive boutique fuse replacing a no-name hardware store fuse made a decidedly negative difference installed where any fuse should have been totally inaudible. I "believe" that experience, only because there were five august audiophiles in the room, and all agreed instantly on the negative effect of the expensive fuse. Moreover, when we went back to the cheap fuse, the musicality of the TVC came back with it, so this was an ABA comparison.
Yep! The "T" in ET is for Thomas so I am by default a "doubter". You combine that with being half Scottish with a Dutch wife and I'm frugal too! I have big filters.
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I never tried the fuse thing being skeptical that they really could do anything. Finally had some spare cash so decided to give it a try. I have Maggie 3.6's which have a 4 amp fuse going to the base and midrange sections. Of course this fuse is in the signal path. Got a couple of Audio Magic liquid nano fuses. They made a significant upgrade in overall transparency of my system. I can't really afford these fuses to put in power supplies but will someday try them.
Alan
I tried one of the hifi tuning fuses in my McCormack DNA--500 amp. I was a skeptic until I heard it for myself. That hifi tuning fuse made an audible improvement simply by replacing the main fuse. I have since sold the amp but kept the fuse and put the stock fuse back in. Looks like that large hifi tuning fuse is $90 now. The first one I bought blew in less than a minute but was replaced free. The second one no problems.
Thanks for that. I had speakers once with tweeter fuses and removed them, hell I do it with my CD transports AC delivery too. Big improvements! I know a better conducting fuse will improve things in the same way a better capacitor or resistor will.
My lower income the last few years is a big part as well. Someday.....
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To my ears and in my systems, audiophile fuses make a significant difference in sound and most importantly- music enjoyment. Synergistic Research makes two different sounding fuses with a 30 day money back trial. Give them a try. It is a great Tweaker experiment!
Neat, thanks for that.
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I guess I'll have to stage my thoughts/observations a little differently
over here for future reference !The posting that "Skepticism is healthy" (I'm sure this is the required
password for AES meetings)gave me several serious chuckles !I'll have to give the Cable Co. a ring to see if they can send me a few
HiFi Tuning fuses to try!(Hmmm, I'll bet they were wearing "Skepticism is healthy" T-Shirts under
their clothes when they were burning "Witches" back in Salem.)
Edits: 05/06/15 05/06/15
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