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In Reply to: RE: read #1 posted by unclestu on March 19, 2015 at 20:11:03
This forum is getting worse every year. More and more porchdicks and keyboard bullies. I don't have a problem with that per se, but more the bullies that turn crybaby when their intended victim or another inmate chimes in. The owner/administator makes the rules. We all get to play in their sandbox by their allowance.
Knowledge = Pissing Contest ???
JKT was merely stating chemistry information, NOT making negative comments on Mr unclestu's crystals. Rule #1 of Mr Unclestu's list does not come into play.
Reread his post and your rule/list/bullet and you'll see he was contributing, not "wasting your time". Don't even get me started on "wasting your time" about forum posting. If you are here, you have time to waste.
I know, I know... Why am I responding?
This is the second one these rude posts/replies in two days and I felt compelled to voice my opinion.
The other rude/entitled/dickish thread is in the Tube Forum and involves Kevin Deal publicly threatening some guy for what seems to be innocent ignorance and not intentional fraud. I responded in that thread too. Is it my business? No. But these are public forums and anybody can respond who cares to. I understand why you started your thread with a rule/guideline that no one may comment if they don't agree with you. This subject is polarized and you were bound to get comments and questions from both sides. I am not going to comment on your faith/belief in crystals, but you don't get to decide who can and cannot respond in a public forum.
Sorry for the rant. Two porchdicks in two days set me off. This is about being a decent person, not crystals or tube knowledge (Deal's rude post in Tube Forum). Not sorry for my opinion.
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look up hygroscopic.... I'm not here to teach chemistry and practicality.
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"look up hygroscopic.... I'm not here to teach chemistry and practicality."
Did you read my post? It had nothing to do with crystals or chemistry. I was trying to make a point about online civility.
Thank you for so eloquently providing another example of bad behavior.
I really didn't want to jump back into this but...
If you are going to present scientific explanations for your observations you need to be more precise in your terminology. You stated that the salt "released electrons" to the crystal. To me that implies some form of oxidation/reduction reaction. Given how tightly bound those electrons are to the salt ions, that's not conceivable. You respond with the one word "hygroscopic". No further explanation. I assume you are implying that the salt will attract moisture and CONDUCT electrons. Where do these electrons come from, no explanation. What's supplying the Free Energy to facilitate this movement of electrons? No explanation. I'm curious now. I want to know. Explain it to me. Don't be afraid that I won't have the technical cops to understand. I have undergraduate degrees in Math and Chemistry from the Univ. of Mo. - Col. and a Masters degree in Chemistry from Stanford Univ.
"It is better to remain silent and thought a fool, then speak and remove all doubt." A. Lincoln
salt makes strong ionic bonds between the Na and Cl. Still in the presence of water, probably the most common solvent on the planet, and something like salt, being hygroscopic, will pull water from existing humidity(quite obviously the amount will vary with the environment) and break down those bonds.Salt dissolves very readily in water................
Strong ionic bonds, yes, but go figure when dissolved in water....
Again I am not inclined to argue anymore. and I will not post any further to this line.
Edits: 03/25/15
An interesting experiment to try would be to put the crystals in some kind of desiccator to dry them. See whether you get the same or similar effects to salt.
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