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In Reply to: RE: Hubbell 8300H Oyaide R-0 or Maestro posted by stehno on February 25, 2015 at 00:24:45
Cryo treatment will not make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Cryo treatment for a $2 AC outlet is simply polishing a turd. The only benefit of cryo treatment is better optimized grain structures for metals other than an OCC single crystal type. There is much more to a high performance AC outlet design than the crystalline boundaries of the base metal contacts, which in the case of cheap AC outlets, the base metal is thin and flimsy, with poor mechanical resonance control provided by both the contacts and the connector body. No matter how good the quality of cryo treatment might be, it won't improve other performance criteria.
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Really The Duster?
Do you suppose that the $2 Home Depot outlet is pure junk? So inferior are the materials that even superior cryo'ing can't improve it?
Do you suppose that the $100 hospital / audio-grade outlet is that superior?
What is your listening experience with a $2 outlet that was cryo'd preferably via the full immersion method?
"Do you suppose that the $2 Home Depot outlet is pure junk? So inferior are the materials that even superior cryo'ing can't improve it?"
You don't seem to understand what cryo treatment can and cannot do in this regard. The issue is not whether cryo treatment will improve the sound of a $2 AC outlet, it's that it won't improve it enough to provide audiophile quality performance. Cryo treatment is not a magic wand. Even the intensive double-cryogenic treatment Audio Excellence AZ provides via Cryogenics International won't make a $2 AC outlet sound good enough to exclude a non-cryo'd Audio Grade AC outlet from an audiophile shopping list.
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue21/cryo_international_interview.htm
"Do you suppose that the $100 hospital / audio-grade outlet is that superior?
Absolutely superior, and it's not supposition on my part. I have many years of experience evaluating various AC outlets, both cryo'd and non-cryo'd. It seems odd for one to believe a $2 AC outet can sound as good as an Audio Grade or even a Hospital Grade product simply by cryo treating it, no matter how advanced the particular cryogenic treatment method may be.
"What is your listening experience with a $2 outlet that was cryo'd preferably via the full immersion method?"
There's no need to go through the trouble of installing a cryo'd $2 AC outlet in order to evaluate it against a non-cryo'd $2 AC outlet, much less any need to compare such with a cryo'd nor non-cryo'd Audio Grade or even a non-cryo'd old-school Hospital Grade design pulled from someone's orphaned audiophile parts box.
'nuff said
After all, I perform double-cryo treatments simply to spend money, waste more hours picking up and delivering parts, and do something "different" for fun. After all, nothing you or I do is going to be as good as what Stenho does....ever. Why am I wasting my time and energy?
One thing though....you won't ever find me near a $2 receptacle. It's declasse'....gotta keep my rep.
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The Duster, You never answered my question.
What did you hear with the $2 outlet that you auditioned after having it cryo-treated? Answer me that, then we can compare notes.
Tell me, in your opinion is it possible for a $100 DIY power cable properly cryo'ed able to match the or exceed the performance of a $6000 power cable?
....such extreme either/or examples to prove how many audiophiles are dancing on the head of a pin.
If you enjoy $2 wall outlets further treated by Jena Labs, then good for you. Jena herself vastly prefers the heavy-duty/spec grade Hubbell's, which cost a lot more than $2.
Don't be silly, Alan. Where did you get the idea I USE $2 outlets cryo'ed by Jena Labs?
Although, if Jena Labs handed them to me, I probably swap them in and replace my far more expensive Furutech outlets in a heartbeat.
But I'd much prefer that Jena Labs hand me the $5 20amp cryo'ed versions.
Especially since Jena Labs uses the superior full-immersion cryo'ing method as opposed to your cryo'ing vendor's inferior method.
There is no sense is discussing anything with you. Word to the wise, everyone....
Experience and/or knowledge - The death knell of paper tigers - Mess you up.
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