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• Do you need warmth or deeper bass? - jedrider 21:11:16 03/22/15 (0)
  In Reply to: RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist posted by Old SteveA on February 10, 2015 at 16:16:58

  Just wondering: I thought my headphone amplifier was on the analytical side, but I realized that, it is accurate, and sounds better than my main system now. It had to burn in a while. I always believed -- that it was good -- because of the deep and quick bass response, though.
  

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• Cardas Headphone Cable - Paul_A 18:09:11 02/13/15 (4)
  In Reply to: RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist posted by Old SteveA on February 10, 2015 at 17:16:58

  The Cardas Cross wire should warm up the sound, but you might want to try one of their more expensive cables if you want more resolution.
  

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  • RE: Cardas Headphone Cable - Old SteveA 19:56:07 02/13/15 (3)
    In Reply to: RE: Cardas Headphone Cable posted by Paul_A on February 13, 2015 at 18:09:11

    Thanks Paul, but I'm A-ok at this point as it was interconnect cable
    related
    
    I've had reasonably good performance using the ALO headphone cables I'd ordered while the HD800s were still in transit . It wasn't until a few months later I even tried the stock headphone cable'
    

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    • OK Here's anothor one - Paul_A 08:17:53 02/14/15 (2)
      In Reply to: RE: Cardas Headphone Cable posted by Old SteveA on February 13, 2015 at 19:56:07

      A few people, myself included, have noticed that the Mad Scientist Audio Black Discii take some of the edge off of high frequencies. They also help out the soundstage and fine details, so they might work well for you.
      

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      • RE: OK Here's anothor one - transam9957 08:45:55 03/22/15 (1)
        In Reply to: RE: OK Here's anothor one posted by Paul_A on February 14, 2015 at 07:17:53

        I have the newest burson sl9018
        

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        • RE: OK Here's anothor one - transam9957 08:56:35 03/22/15 (0)
          In Reply to: RE: OK Here's anothor one posted by transam9957 on March 22, 2015 at 08:45:55

          With the sl 9018 it seemed a little thin in the mids and a little edge on top . What I did was went to gold plated power cords and hifi tuning fuses . I was using a old moster 5000 power center with stock gold power cord . I tried a Belkin power strip with nickel power cord and it sounded like ass . I also upgraded the hd650 cable which helped a lot .
          

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• RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist - stehno 01:22:37 02/13/15 (1)
  In Reply to: RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist posted by Old SteveA on February 10, 2015 at 17:16:58

  Real warmth is found in the recording not in the wood. If anything the wood in this case induces a coloration much like some tubes do. Masking the distortions already existing in your system that give that cold and fatiguing sound might give one the impression that the presentation is now more musical. When in fact, it's really nothing but a bit less ear fatiguing.
  
  Spare yourself the wood and look for proper line conditioners if you want to start to extract more from your recordings, including real warmth. I emphasize proper because there are many improper line conditioners that either do nothing or induce their own sonic harm.
  

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  • RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist - Old SteveA 05:02:10 02/13/15 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist posted by stehno on February 13, 2015 at 01:22:37

    I'm really sorry that I ever posted this,as this was nothing more then a
    "momentary" impression (that I ended up resolving within about 30mins,after
    thinking about recent changes to my system)

    Thanks for all the suggestions though. (& thanks for confirming I'm not
    singular in thinking that DACs are actually the place where tonal characteristics are being derived from.)

    I find it pretty entertaining the # of novices who automatically assume that they need to use tubed amplification to "warm up the sound". My normal
    thought is, "They may need a better DAC" (Oh you went "line conditioner"
    not "DAC". I'm good there also.)

    Thanks anyhow
    ~steve
    

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• Yellow poplar base 3/4 inch thick... - Tweaker456 13:15:55 02/12/15 (0)
  In Reply to: RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist posted by Old SteveA on February 10, 2015 at 17:16:58

  plus the famous Pass $ Seymour 15A ac plug.
  

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• Wood for warmth - hawkmoon 07:19:09 02/11/15 (4)
  In Reply to: RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist posted by Old SteveA on February 10, 2015 at 17:16:58

  For free, I would put some different types of wood on the device, or under it. What a component sits on will influence its sound. Its free to try.
  

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  • And Deflex - Awe-d-o-file 15:17:58 02/11/15 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: Wood for warmth posted by hawkmoon on February 11, 2015 at 07:19:09

    Michael Percy carries it.
    
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  • RE: Wood for warmth - jedrider 07:27:27 02/11/15 (2)
    In Reply to: RE: Wood for warmth posted by hawkmoon on February 11, 2015 at 07:19:09

    If there is a WoodCraft shop in the neighborhood, they have a lot of Southern Hemisphere hardwoods available as blocks. Strap a block to the bottom of the unit and remove the cover and see what the results are could yield useful results.
    
    I have a solid state headphone amplifier that is a bit on the lean/hard side, but when the AC improves, I don't mine at all. So having clean AC is helpful, too, maybe with a power conditioner or new power cord.
    

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    • RE: Wood for warmth - Mike B. 08:47:55 02/11/15 (1)
      In Reply to: RE: Wood for warmth posted by jedrider on February 11, 2015 at 07:27:27

      Try some teak or Mahogany.
      
      
      
      

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      • RE: Wood for warmth - Old SteveA 13:18:35 02/11/15 (0)
        In Reply to: RE: Wood for warmth posted by Mike B. on February 11, 2015 at 08:47:55

        Hmmm...
        
        Maybe some Brazilian Rosewood & Ebony will be perfect when I listen to my
        Classical Guitar recordings.
        
        Having about $4k in power filtration & chords, changing my ICs worked
        the trick !
        
        Thanks any way
        -steve
        

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• RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist - Awe-d-o-file 06:30:26 02/11/15 (2)
  In Reply to: RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist posted by Old SteveA on February 10, 2015 at 17:16:58

  I agree with what Duster said completely. The only other choice would be internal mods to the Burson. Maybe you could expound on all the AC delivery and cabling. On vibration control most times a more compliant type would likely "soften" things.
  
  
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  • RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist - Old SteveA 07:21:17 02/11/15 (1)
    In Reply to: RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist posted by Awe-d-o-file on February 11, 2015 at 06:30:26

    Actually ,after Duster mentioned it, I did end up changing the interconnects I was using between my Metrum Hex DAC & the Soloist
    
    My thinking was, as "neutral" sounding as I'd been able to bring my HD800 to the interconnects that I switched to would possibly "now" perform as I'd hoped they would when originally installed them in a different incarnation of my system. They were a bit "etched" sounding then & remained so this time around
    
    Long story,short the interconnects I "had" been using have actually moved the Soloist character to solidly "neutral". I should know better than to assume things in this hobby; (I had spent 7x the amt for the ICs that are now sitting back in their wooden cases; so I had to try I guess!)
    
    Thanks
    -steve
    

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    • RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist - Awe-d-o-file 15:16:52 02/11/15 (0)
      In Reply to: RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist posted by Old SteveA on February 11, 2015 at 07:21:17

      Yes, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Also I have posted that I have made system changes and then reverted to older things due to the changes making the sound different. My last change was related to HF getting a bit bright due to other changes made after that cable was introduced. Luckily neither was really high dollar and I got one for free.
      
      
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• RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist - Duster 17:33:35 02/10/15 (0)
  In Reply to: RE: Any tweaks I could try to get slightly warm up the sound of my Burson Soloist posted by Old SteveA on February 10, 2015 at 17:16:58

  There are a number of things you can do as far as system tuning is concerned to customize the presentation. Vibration control devices, interconnect cables/connectors, AC connectors/AC outlets can be selected for specific tonal characteristics. Perhaps you can tell more about the voicing of your Sennheiser HD800 headphones, including how cabling might be involved.
  
  
  

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