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In Reply to: RE: Their products work well for the money...... posted by Dryginger2 on November 30, 2014 at 12:46:52
You make it sound like Winston does nothing but promote our products. Yes, he has started some threads on them. I guess that there are not so many interesting things in New Zealand to start threads on.
But Winston is a prolific poster - 172 posts this year.
Yes, I know Winston. He does not live close - several hours away. I see him sometimes when he drops by MSA HQ. But there's no affiliation, any more than say Duster is affiliated to VH Audio. He buys our products without any special discounts. As such he is entitled to an opinion, and is allowed to post his opinions here.
As for "The question is whether repeated use of the website by one member to promote a single manufacturer's products is acceptable."
The answer is Yes, it's OK because it's permitted by the forum rules.
Follow Ups:
a very dedicated audio phile, always on the search. I imagine moving from LA easy the NZ country certainly curtails or at least limits his quest. PRobably meeting Bob certainly fills a void.in Winston life. SO cut the guy some slack, and it seems to me that most of WS comments have been right on so far.OF course YMMV, but trying his recommendations have been spot on.
In addition, I'm sure that Bob appreciates a beta tester close by with whom he can converse and share ideas
Edits: 11/30/14
Stu nailed it in a nutshell with that last line: I'm simply a convenient beta-tester. That's all. No evil audio conspiracies, no nefarious collusion, no hidden 'quid pro quo'. It's simply that I have a decent system (when it works), an open mind, and a pair of ears I am not afraid to challenge. Oh, and I don't mind helping out up-and-coming audio designers by beta testing their products for free, and writing corresponding reviews, because I absolutely LOVE this hobby. It's the best!
So, if I can help advance the 'audio art' by beta testing and reporting what I hear, I am all for it. Very happy to help. Actually, I feel it's an honor, really.
And beta testing is nothing new for me, I should note.
Back in the USA, I have beta-tested for: Shakti Innovations: TweakAudio.com/Electronic Visionary Systems; Bybee Laboratories; Alan Maher Designs; Acoustic Solutions (superb bass traps; now defunct), and others. Basically, I was always trying this out and that out, and reporting back to the manufacturer. So again, this is nothing new for me.
What IS new is all this hostility from a few folks who seemingly NEVER try any of the tweaks they rant against, but simply appear and post their pointless musings in order to try and dissuade others from experimenting with new tweaks or products.
Usually, these types have mud (or worse) for ears, and/or no money for any of the tweaks mentioned. So they whine, rant and rave and try to sow negativity towards the product being reviewed, a product they will never have or be able to appreciate. And they know it.
What they are really doing is simply taking a 'sour grapes' attitude. They know their ears or their systems or their wallets are simply not up to snuff, and so they hate the fact that others are enjoying sonic benefits they wish they had or could enjoy. It's sad, disgusting and pathetic.
But far worse, they are possibly dissuading some readers from giving something a try that might make a great improvement in the listener's playback. And that is simply wrong. Nor very nice or considerate. It is, in short, very selfish.
This is an audio "Tweaks" forum. It is for open-minded people who want to take their systems to the next level of performance by trying new products and techniques and by engaging in activities and evaluations most average listeners would not even dream of trying.
Those who come here and do nothing but spew negativity and naysaying without EVER trying any of the products they rail against, should simply leave this forum to those who use for its intended purpose: the advancement of cutting edge products and techniques that seek and serve to improve audio reproduction and, ultimately, the deeper and more pleasurable enjoyment of music for the listener.
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