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So I've been reading about fake connectors, but what about fake receptacles? Anyone run into one? Seems to be more of a connector thing. Any thoughts?
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can you please show me a review on an Oyaide product? All I can find is advertisements from sellers. I still wonder how a metal can "flavor" audio signals. I can see how a shielded conductor could help though...
Every conductor, in fact just about every material including dielectric materials chosen for an audiophile design presents an identifiable sonic signature, including those involved in an Audio Grade AC outlet design.
Many design/material factors provoke sonic signatures (unique impressions) of which audiophiles tend to seek, often providing subjectively improved perceptions of audiophile listening cues such as general tonality, openness, coherence, clarity, neutrality, soundstage/imaging spatial cues, ambient information retrieval, extended frequency extremes, bass articulation, pitch delineation, midrange presence, macro and micro dynamics, the musical/physical attributes of PRAT, inner detail and air, transparency, with a lowered noise floor perhaps being most important to get right/do no harm.
True to the source timbrel information accuracy is the audiophile Holy Grail, while providing plenty of natural sounding PRAT/boogie factor.
YMMV
Do you believe all those things? Why do electronic manufacturers not know this?
Do you believe all those things? Why do electronic manufacturers not know this?
I have direct experience of such things. As for electronic manufacturers such as Radio Shack if that's what you mean, proper audiophile manufacturers have been producing such things for many years now. You need to research the subject before becoming reactionary towards the topic.
Here's a basic overview (not a proper review) if that's all you seek:
I just never heard this from a component manufacturer. It should be easy then to show me what you mean...
When it comes to aftermarket products, audio component manufacturer PR tends to be as enthusiastic as automotive manufacturers are.
That said, there are multitudes of audio component manufacturers who avidly own audiophile AC outlets for their own use. It's not a remarkable thing during recent years.
Yes, sadly, I have. I unwittingly bought one from a guy on Agon who claimed to be selling off his own personal over-supply - subsequent investigation revealed a seemingly endless number of units. They were/are very plausible - even when compared to the "real" thing - but corrode very quickly ...
I just purchased 2 from a seller on Agon, and he has not confirmed anything in 3 days in regard to status. I'm getting worried and annoyed. I used paypal with Amex, and figure I'll probably be alright if anything is awry, but still. Wth! He doesn't speak English to well and it seems like it might be a red flag. His feedback is good on audiogon, though. Not sure what to do? How long do I have to wait until I can cancel the order? How long is sufficient time? Anybody know what the audiogon rules are in regard to this?
Edits: 08/21/14
I can't speak to receptacles, but plugs, yeah. I saw some alleged Hubbell plugs on some far eastern parts site for a stupid price of like $1.00 something each.
I sent the link to the Western Regional manager of Hubbell. He responded and was thankful, and did mention they were going to purchase several for examination.
I presume they dropped the hammer on the vendor.
Point being, electrical equipment is a very poor place to bottom feed for price - especially on US companies products sold by overseas vendors.
Howdy cdb,
Actually, some of those ubiquitous Taiwan/Chinese AC connectors are getting better in quality and sonic performance.
I can advise use of $14 Valab AC connectors from Taiwan/China rather than a hardware store variety or even Hospital Grade Hubbell, Bryant, Leviton, Pass & Seymour, Cooper, Eagle, Marinco, et al products.
The new modest budget level Wattgate Evolution evo Economy bare brass AC plug and IEC connectors are worth looking into. Nice audiophile design based on my experience of the Audio Grade evo AU and evo RH AC connectors.
Cheers, Duster
Yeah, I see fake ac connectors discussed, but never fake wall outlets. Anybody run into one?
You probably won't see one. Here is why.. with most house sales these days there is a visit by a "home inspector". One of the things they do is check every outlet with a small device that tells them if the outlet is hot and if it is grounded. If they find a problem it is corrected. I guess they should start checking stereo equipment too...
That will tell you if the outlet is wired correctly, but not if it is authentic.
Authentic? Really? Do you mean not working? I think a home inspector would know the difference..
He is not talking about fake as in not working. He is talking about fake as in counterfeit.
Lets see. A receptacle usually costs less than $1. Is it really worth making one that doesn't work? And for what? My point is would a certified appraiser risk his occupation not being able to identify a fake? Still not sure why someone would go to the trouble of making one?
You're 100% wrong.
Home inspector is looking for issues with a house; roof/basement leaking, HVAC, plumbing, electrical, structural issues, fire/safety. In no way shape or form is he/she going to differentiate between a real Oyaide outlet and a fake. 99.999% are not going to have a clue what a Oyaide outlet is unless he or she is really into HiFi. Unless it is wired incorrectly they aren't going to give it a second glance and even at that it would be just to correct the wiring.
As for the OP this might be an example of a fake. I've never seen this color combination
Actually, that is an official color combination, just not commonly sold.
http://www.oyaide.com/audio/audio-products/receptacle_wallplate/SWO-XXX_ULTIMO.html
I had never heard of an Oyaide receptacle. Do they look different in any way? Thanks for the info..
In wall, not really...
A purple with black face Oyaide SWO-XXX AC outlet comes with the Oyaide WPC-Z aluminum wall bracket when purchased as a set (model WPC-XXX).
Other than the black face, it's the same AC outlet design as the all purple SWO-XXX.
See link:
I don't know what it sounds like but it sure looks good!
Dave
Sounds as good as it looks.
Cheers, Duster
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I believe they are talking about the outlets not being that "brand" as generic A/C outlets
cost much less.
I did not feel comfortable purchasing the oyaide outlets from the particular seller, and did not bother to even open the package once it got here. I returned them for a refund.
That is always a wise course of action if you have any doubts as to what the item you received "actually"is .
For items such as this "The Cable Co." would be my first choice of who to purchase this item
from. I'm sure you will find numerous persons here who have had successful dealings with them repeatedly. Give them a call & speak to one of their sales reps.
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