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RE: The foil is great below 500 hz in my system

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geoffkait

In Reply to: RE: The foil is great below 500 hz in my system posted by rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com on March 30, 2014 at 08:24:19

I do the same with copper foil between Blu Ray player and headphone amplifier.

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Above - unclestu 12:30:44 03/30/14 (13)
poster and OP{ are talking about foil for speaker cable.

What are you writing about?
- RE: Above - geoffkait 12:40:04 03/30/14 (12)
  Streamers. This is Tweakers, isn't it? Maybe we can combine Tweakers and Cables. Lol
  Actually, now that I think about it my interconnects are tubes, too. You know, anaysis plus.
  
  Edits: 03/30/14
  - Seems if one is making their own cables this is the place to post - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 07:09:18 03/31/14 (11)
    I rarely go to the CABLES forum since I cannot remember ever seeing a post about DIY.
    
    I go there so seldom I may have missed them.
    
    I think most ready made cables are made by the same people doing the global warming scare stuff. The narratives seem very similar to me.
    - RE: Seems if one is making their own cables this is the place to post - Lew 08:17:58 04/02/14 (1)
      Good to know you are not concerned about global warming, which is why your children will need to move to high ground eventually.
      - So what do you suggest we do about it? - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 13:45:36 04/02/14 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Seems if one is making their own cables this is the place to post posted by Lew on April 02, 2014 at 08:17:58
        
        I really do not want to know.
        
        But if I had children I would get them to ride the back of a polar bear since they are excellent swimmers.
        
        Please ignore my posts in future; you might consider doing your part and get rid of those wasteful amplifiers you use.
    - I'm all aboard the tubular wire train as I mentioned. Can I suggest you give streamers a whirl sometime? Nt - geoffkait 07:48:41 03/31/14 (8)
      Nt
      - I thought you were using STREAMERS as a "nickname" - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 11:09:46 03/31/14 (7)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I'm all aboard the tubular wire train as I mentioned. Can I suggest you give streamers a whirl sometime? Nt posted by geoffkait on March 31, 2014 at 07:48:41
        
        I will have to look up what this is.
        _
        
        Just tried and don't see anything that is wire.
        
        More explanation please.
        
        RE: STREAMERS - geoffkait 11:37:18 03/31/14 (6)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I thought you were using STREAMERS as a "nickname" posted by rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com on March 31, 2014 at 11:09:46
        
        Mapleshade's ground plane ribbons are "streamers."
        http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/products.asp?dept=227 (Open in New Window)
        
        RE: STREAMERS - Lew 08:14:57 04/02/14 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: STREAMERS posted by geoffkait on March 31, 2014 at 11:37:18
        
        Has anyone used those Mapleshade Streamers and heard "startling" improvements? I am not being facetious. I have the highest regard for Pierre Sprey, but sometimes he is given to hyperbole, IMO.
        
        RE: STREAMERS - geoffkait 17:59:03 04/02/14 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: STREAMERS posted by Lew on April 02, 2014 at 08:14:57
        
        You wrote,
        
        "Has anyone used those Mapleshade Streamers and heard "startling" improvements? I am not being facetious. I have the highest regard for Pierre Sprey, but sometimes he is given to hyperbole, IMO."
        
        I think the whole idea is the cat's pajamas.
        
        I was hoping for a source of tubular wire - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 07:46:24 04/01/14 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: STREAMERS posted by geoffkait on March 31, 2014 at 11:37:18
        
        Do you know what he is covering his foil with?
        
        Looks like the same foil as the inductors but with a plastic covering. Plastic, BAD is my first reaction.
        
        From what the fellow who came up with this idea (Bud Purvine as far as I know) opined that a cotton covering was part of the scheme.
        
        One would need to first coat the foil with shellac (my favorite coating) to slow oxidation and then place between lengths of cotton cloth for the best effect. Of course, Purvine also found it best to form a loop which is not clear if this has been done from the photo. Maybe MAPLESHADE found it was not necessary?
        
        Whether to use foil or litz wire? Cotton cloth or not? I thought these were questions with settled answers. I should know better. Nonetheless it would be interesting to hear Mr. Purvine's assessment of this.
        
        Bud - unclestu 16:05:03 04/01/14 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I was hoping for a source of tubular wire posted by rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com on April 01, 2014 at 07:46:24
        
        claimed that wire surface area was critical. His recommendation was to use litz since it has a large surface area. I have utilized his ideas using 4 inch wide copper foil with very good results. Looping did sound better, BTRW.
        
        RE: I was hoping for a source of tubular wire - geoffkait 08:34:51 04/01/14 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I was hoping for a source of tubular wire posted by rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com on April 01, 2014 at 07:46:24
        
        Streamers are not the same thing as ground loops. The far ends of the streamers are left unattached as per Mapleshade's description. I don't know what he coats the foil with. I do not coat mine.
        
        Edits: 04/01/14
        
        Thank you for the link and explanation within... - musetap 14:22:33 03/31/14 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: STREAMERS posted by geoffkait on March 31, 2014 at 11:37:18
        
        Gonna make me some streamers.
        
        Be interesting to see if they make a difference used in conjunction with the EVS Ground Enhancers used on my amp.
        
        "Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" - Michael McClure

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