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Posted by kbuzz (A) on January 05, 2008 at 07:50:26

As noted in prior forums, my note pad has evaporated and the product has been discontinued. Most likely due to its limited shelf life. I had good success with the pad on my modded oppo in reducing high freq. hash and sibilence. I would like to replace it but the prior posts seem to only address products which address mass/weight.

since the notepad was pretty light im pretty confident that its benefits were rfi type. Can anyone reccomend something not outrageously expensive. Id do the ERS cloth but frankly dont have alot of time to experiment with sizing the sheets ..thanks

• I use a Mapleshade small Heavy Hat w/ a Herbies Audio Lab Big dot under it - dusted 20:30:30 01/05/08 (0)
  In Reply to: RE: GutWire notepad/sound pad Alternative posted by kbuzz on January 05, 2008 at 07:50:26

  I use 3 Herbies Audio Lab 3/4" Heavy Hats with Herbies Audio Lab 3 Big Dots under each- atop my Audio Mirror T61 tube pre
  
  

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• RE: GutWire notepad/sound pad Alternative - kbuzz 14:53:15 01/05/08 (1)
  In Reply to: RE: GutWire notepad/sound pad Alternative posted by kbuzz on January 05, 2008 at 07:50:26

  thanks all for the suggestions. Do any of these products have RFI reduction or are they just mass loading types. As noted in my OP, im looking for something that has both mass and RFI reduction, like the note pad
  
  

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  • RE: GutWire notepad/sound pad Alternative - David Aiken 21:07:51 01/05/08 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: GutWire notepad/sound pad Alternative posted by kbuzz on January 05, 2008 at 14:53:15

    There isn't much mass in the Herbie's Supersonic Stabiliser and they're stated as being a fluorocarbon and metal composite. Carbon seems to affect electromagnetic fields since carbon fibre is one of the 'ingredients' in ERS cloth and I've found that just placing a container with a small amount of activated carbon on top of a component over the transformer area makes a sonic difference, even though I'm only talking about 100 g of activated carbon, hardly enough to mass load anything.
    
    Steve does not mention electromagnetic properties on the web page but that doesn't necessarily mean they don't have them. I have no idea myself.
    
    If you're after both mass loading and RFI control, then I'd suggest lining the base of a container with ERS cloth and simply filling it with sand or shot to the mass you want. Otherwise start looking at devices like the Shakti stone, or try a few of the suggestions here and simply judge them on their merits. Quite frankly, I don't like the explanations given for a lot of tweaks but that doesn't mean they don't make a difference. Things can work but the explanation given can be wrong, in fact there's a long history of that starting with anything that worked based on gravity before Newton gave us the first version of the current accepted account.
    
    
    
    David Aiken
    
    

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• A plug for Herbie's (No, not a power cord) - David Aiken 13:04:37 01/05/08 (1)
  In Reply to: RE: GutWire notepad/sound pad Alternative posted by kbuzz on January 05, 2008 at 07:50:26

  I recently bought 2 of Herbie's Supersonic Stabilisers which I tried on my Arcam FMJ CD33 CD player in my audio system. My CDP and integrated amp sit on a GPA Monaco base unit with GPA's Apex ball bearing feet and their Formula composite shelves. In my experience very little makes a difference to the results I get from the Monaco rig. It does the job damn well.
  
  I thought that I got perhaps a little improvement from the Stabilisers but that there was virtually no difference between having 1 or 2 on the Arcam so I left one on it and put the other on top of the Denon DVD player in my separate HT system. That certainly made a difference that I didn't have any doubts about, and a difference one could see as well as hear. Apart from the sound becoming a bit clearer and more focussed, so did the picture. I was surprised by how much difference it made with the Denon after my results with the Arcam, but the HT rig is not sitting on anything like the Arcam so it's much more of a real world test in many ways.
  
  I'd give the Stabilisers a go. I've ordered another 2 to try elsewhere in the HT system.
  
  
  
  David Aiken
  

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  • I get really good results with them myself... - Wellfed 17:44:45 01/05/08 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: A plug for Herbie's (No, not a power cord) posted by David Aiken on January 05, 2008 at 13:04:37

    I use mine in conjunction with Herbies footers. I have them on both my DAC and my transport. Recently added a third to each component and again appreciated the result.
    
    

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• I also use Millenium Audio M-Block from Germany - hotbird 11:50:06 01/05/08 (0)
  In Reply to: RE: GutWire notepad/sound pad Alternative posted by kbuzz on January 05, 2008 at 07:50:26

  

  My latest tweak...the biggest 2.1 Kg block on my CD transport works wonders ;-)
  Also just as indestructible as the HRS damping plates which was posted earlier.
  

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• I use HRS Damping Plates.... - hotbird 11:44:01 01/05/08 (0)
  In Reply to: RE: GutWire notepad/sound pad Alternative posted by kbuzz on January 05, 2008 at 07:50:26

  

  Think it's more expensive than the Gutwire pads, but definitely indestructible.. ;-)
  

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