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Tin-man

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Hi:
Magnan Signature foil speaker cables are excellent with planar speakers. I have access to the foil to build these speaker cables. .00075 X 5". If anyone is interested in acquiring this foil please let me know. Pricing on .0004 X 1/4" silver foil for interconnects will be available soon.
Yours truly,
Tin-man

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Re: DIY Magnan Signature Foil - Jon Risch 20:56:00 07/11/04 (7)
See:
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/cables/messages/95200.html
The proposed foil is awfully thin, and could prove terminaly frustrating to work with.
BTW, no ads in the forums, use the free classifieds.

Jon Risch
- John is absolutely correct! - layawalla 05:41:00 07/12/04 (2)
  Copper and silver foil this thin will fail.
  Joseph Cohen
  PranaWire
  - Re: John is absolutely correct! - pkell44 15:27:22 07/13/04 (0)
    Are you sure that the stated thickness of the silver foil wasn't a typo ? .0004 inches is four-ten thousands of an inch ! I think it would be extremely fragile and very difficult to handle due to static attraction alone.
    Happy listening !
  - Correction: Jon - layawalla 05:43:18 07/12/04 (0)
    Apologies.
- Re: DIY Magnan Signature Foil - Steve Eddy 21:27:16 07/11/04 (3)
  See:
  http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/cables/messages/95200.html
  The proposed foil is awfully thin, and could prove terminaly frustrating to work with.
  I urge you to look up the thickness of a sheet of paper, the thickness of ordnary kitchen aluminum foil, etc. Trying to handle .00075" copper foil will prove too difficult.
  Why don't you take your own advice first before trying to tell people what will or won't prove too difficult for them?
  I just measured the thickness of some plain ol' Reynolds Wrap. It's about 0.00075". Same as the foil you're cautioning everyone against using.
  se
  - Re: DIY Magnan Signature Foil - Jon Risch 17:25:37 07/12/04 (2)
    Exactly. Have _you_ ever tried to make a speaker cable out of such aluminum foil? I have tried, I have also worked with 0.001" copper foil, they both tear and crumple, and ultimately at or near a connection point, fail.
    In case you didn't notice, he is trying to sell the copper foil as if it were the best thing since sliced bread. I just think that folks should be aware that it is NOT trivial to work with such thin foil, and they might want to consider that aspect seriously BEFORE they spend any money on this guys foil.
    Additionally, he has not given any indication of how one goes about insulating such a cable using a quality insulating material, which is also not a trivial thing, and leaving it un-insulated can be a very dangerous way to go, involving blown amps, damaged speakers, etc.
    
    Jon Risch
    - Re: DIY Magnan Signature Foil - Steve Eddy 18:54:35 07/12/04 (1)
      Exactly. Have _you_ ever tried to make a speaker cable out of such aluminum foil?
      Exactly? You originally said that you wouldn't even be able to HANDLE the stuff without tearing it:
      Unless you slipped a digit, those dimensins would be the equivalent of copper tissue paper, you couldn't handle it without tearing the foil!
      No, I haven't used Reynolds Wrap to make speaker cables. But I do use it regularly when making brownies.
      I pull off a sheet and use it to line a 9 x 13 inch baking pan, pressing it down into pan making sure it's pressed well into the edges and corners. Then I take a paper towel and wipe it well all over. After the brownies have baked and cooled for a while, I turn the whole thing out upside down onto a cutting board and peel off the Reynolds Wrap, which in spite of the shortening still sticks a bit to the brownies.
      All of that without ever tearing the foil.
      I think I'd call that "handling."
      I have tried, I have also worked with 0.001" copper foil, they both tear and crumple, and ultimately at or near a connection point, fail.
      Perhaps you're just clumsy and careless.
      In case you didn't notice, he is trying to sell the copper foil as if it were the best thing since sliced bread.
      What are you talking about?
      In his original post on Cable Asylum, all he said was:
      Would anybody be interested in a volume purchase of .00075 x 5" copper foil?
      And here he simply said:
      Magnan Signature foil speaker cables are excellent with planar speakers.
      You call that "trying to sell the copper foil as if it were the best thing since sliced bread"?
      He didn't say anything else about them until you came along and bushwacked the poor guy.
      I just think that folks should be aware that it is NOT trivial to work with such thin foil, and they might want to consider that aspect seriously BEFORE they spend any money on this guys foil.
      Additionally, he has not given any indication of how one goes about insulating such a cable using a quality insulating material, which is also not a trivial thing, and leaving it un-insulated can be a very dangerous way to go, involving blown amps, damaged speakers, etc.
      If people were the complete imbeciles you like to make them out to be, then they shouldn't be doing ANY sort of DIY work. They might end up poking someone's eye out with their soldering iron.
      C'mon, Jon, we're talking about adults here, not children.
      se
      - Re: DIY Magnan Signature Foil - pkell44 15:36:43 07/13/04 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: DIY Magnan Signature Foil posted by Steve Eddy on July 12, 2004 at 18:54:35:
        
        To paraphrase the punch line of a very old joke : "I'm tired of this CONSTANT bickering over aluminum foil !" When the dialog begins to get surly it's time to switch the subject. Passion is a wonderful thing but once spoken, words can't be taken back.
        Happy Listening !

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