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I have a quad of these in sealed cartons from March of 1945, If interested?
Also a quad of WE 350B's that I purchased from a customer who was friends with ( I forget his name ) but I believe his company was Vintage Tube Services that tested about 60 of the WE 350B's and this was his best quad of matched 350B's.
I bought them hoping that we would build a 6L6 amp to offer for sale but that never happened and I have only one 6L6 amp that Alex Yeung ( Mr. Eastern Electric ) built for me and I have enough 350B's to last my lifetime..
I've been hoarding these for 15 years now, might be time to let them go.
Bill
You could buy those tubes via Graybar for a time in the late 40s when WE Sound System amps were sold for installs. Some WE tubes were not on the open market but these were available through pro channels. I saw them listed in the catalog.
They weren't available at the local hardware store but if you have money, you could probably find them on Canal St. or elsewhere.
Many of the most common 40s WE Studio/PA amps used 350Bs, i.e. 124, 142, 143, 118, etc. as long life alternates for 6L6.
I had a bunch of 350Bs when I was using 124s and 118s and found that I preferred GE 7581As. They were good tubes and lasted forever but I didn't find them to be anything special sonically, at least in the WE amps.
Senco and Sylvania also made 350Bs. Sencos could have been rebranded WEs. Look exactly the same.
Same with 274Bs...I liked GZ34s better.
Sold most of that stuff off for relative peanuts decades ago, thinking I was making money, but who could have known just how crazy it would get?
Joe N5KAT
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Free your mind and your ass will follow -- Parliament/Funkadelic
Hi Joe
I hear you on the GZ34s.They have a lower voltage drop and therefore the operating points of the circuits they feed will change for the better or for the worse,depending on where the circuits are the most linear.Also,when you supply more B+ to an output and driver circuit,power increases and distortion decreases much of the time.That's good to know about the 350b..Now I won't cry too much that I don't have any. LOL..I know tubes can be circuit dependent depending on where they were used..I would love to see what WE350B tubes sold for in the 40s.I'm sure they weren't cheap for the day.
73 N8TPI
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
Edits: 06/28/16
Yeah, true, but I am not sure the increased B+ voltage of the GZ34 tells the whole story but it is certainly a chapter in it. Lower impedance may be the chapter heading and lower voltage drop a sub heading.
Western Electric never made any bad tubes but, having used many, not all are worth the massive premium, to me at least, based on experiments I did long ago. Many WE tube prices are beyond insane, but I know folks on the other side of those transactions and there is some huge money chasing this stuff. Few can compete.
But who knows if I'd even agree with myself 30 years later? Been through a lot of research and development and wide exposure to different things since then.
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Free your mind and your ass will follow -- Parliament/Funkadelic
to buy that quad and-NEVER- miss the tubes you sold.
Just a suspicion.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
and running a 100% vintage tube AM station,I'm still waiting to find an old ham that has a stash of them I get cheap or for next to nothing.
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"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
And a cat that lost its ears from... smoking?!?!?
What a life...
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
Even his fur is turning brown on his upper leg from nicotene lol.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
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The Mind has No Firewall~ U.S. Army War College.
I don't know if it is the tube or something else, but, the WE 59b amp with meshplate 252 tube is one of the best amps I've ever heard. It makes some pretty nice amps sound lifeless in comparison.
I like my amps with the WE 349a output tubes. Using basically the same iron, I could have it done up as a 124 and use the 350 output tube, but, I like the 349a a little bit more even though it puts out less power.
This weekend, I heard an amp that utilizes the WE 271 tube and it is a fantastic sounding mono-bloc amp. The builder took a long time finding and testing various vintage parts to use in the amp so he had only one copy. But, as a mono amp, it really is something special. This is the first 271 amp I've heard and it just showed me that there is always something new (old) out there that can be a surprise.
I have to agree with you Ken and in the running for the best sounding tube ever made IMHO..Of course being a 6L6 family aficionado,some might say I have a bias for 6L6 tubes.I don't know where they get that..LOL
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
I just added a pair of Ken-Rad black glass 6L6GA tubes to my modest tube stash.
Just cannot afford a mortgage payment for anything more....exotic.
Steve
I hate the 6L6 family tubes.That's why don't have any 6L6s.Argh argh argh!
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
eight of those "holy grail" botles@ 1k+!!!
I can sell most of my system and just stare at them on the empty shelf.
Nah,me either.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
hold on to these another 50 years and you'll double your money.
Have a dead one somewhere in the shoebox collection.
Hard to imagine going to the electronics store in the 40/50's and buy one for a couple of bucks?
Those you could never get cheap because they were not sold by Western Electric,they were put into leased equipment.Most WE tubes were made for their own use and unless you knew someone that worked at MA Bell,you couldn't really couldn't get your hands on any other than the few that snuck into hamfests or were pulled out of retired equipment from movie theaters and radio stations.I think they may have used the 350a and 350b tubes in line amps on the Trans-Atlantic cable as well.
"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" H. L. Mencken
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