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RE: Citation V and Marantz 8b question

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Michael Samra

In Reply to: RE: Citation V and Marantz 8b question posted by AJ on January 05, 2015 at 10:58:35

This is a McShane upgraded mc240. Notice the only think you see are better quality capacitors and they were soldered in and in the case of the filter caps they were put in with GOOP.

This is a stock mc240
AJ
Once again too many confuse upgrades with modifications. Modifying is where you change the circuitry to where it totally changes the sonic character of the amp or preamp.
Upgrading is what most people do by keeping the stock appearance,not drilling holes or making big holes in the chassis,but simply replacing old worn out capacitors and out of tolerance resistors and gluing the new filter caps in where you took out the old twist loc caps. This way you can always out it back to original with no damage whatsoever.

Now as you can see everything in this amp can be put back to the old original worn out caps that make the amp perform mediocre at best or you can maintain a pretty much stock appearance with all the same circuitry other than a better grounding and enjoy a much improved amp as far as clarity and bass go. Fifty year old caps just cannot do these relics justice and,they are hard on the transformers because of the excessive current due too old leaky caps.

"If it measures good and sounds bad, it is bad; if it measures bad and sounds good, you have measured the wrong thing."

- Daniel R. von Recklinghausen

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RE: Citation V and Marantz 8b question - AJ 13:25:30 01/05/15 (1)
Hi Mike,

Nice work. I did not mean to confuse modify with upgradess. I have "upgraded" many classics and would never modify them. I tend to restuff cans to really maintain a look.. but that is tedious and not great way to spend tech $ if you are paying for resoration.

I also keep all the old parts to re-install if required.

The reality is that any of the classics are really not performing as intended now being at least 40 to 50 years old. If the intent is to listen and use- then upgrades that don't mangle the chassis in any way ( like you've done) are necessary.

If the intent is to collect and display for those real rarities - and I get this- then don't touch.

I have examples of the 8b, Citation II and Mc225 - all upgraded!- as I listen to all. I have never owned a Citation V but have had one on loan for a period of time. My vote based on my biases is the Marantz or Mc225.

The Marantz 5's and Model 2's are nice as well but put way more pressure on budget.

I am a Marantz fan but take that with a grain of salt!
- RE: Citation V and Marantz 8b question - airtime 15:32:09 01/05/15 (0)
  Yeah, I am a sucker for Marantz!
  
  How would you describe the overall sound?
  
  Again, I know it's like describing the color blue, but give it a try.
  charles

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