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In Reply to: RE: We don't "know" that... posted by geoffkait on April 04, 2014 at 13:42:40
...and pay attention only to the positive reports. Seems kind of closed minded to deny the existence of outcomes known to occur.
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One reason why some folks have negative results with cryo is actually quite simple. It's because an item just back from the cryo lab will not sound very good, even kind of harsh and funny sounding, for a period of perhaps a week - this is due to the temporary effect of cryo on the materials, thermal shock. Other reasons might include the system was not resolving enough, the person was physically unable to appreciate the effect, his memory was not good enough to remember what it sounded like before cryo properly without the ability to A/B.
Give up, dude.
People like Steve won't see the truth.
Provide them with evidence and
they claim it isn't valid or made up.
Provide then with scientific explanation and
they say where's the white paper or the journal.
It will never be good enough for them.
I learned long ago with these types 8^(
DanL
PS Steve don't even try baiting me because it won't work.
Please recall my discussion originally centered on the tendency of true believers to dismiss the neutral or negative outcome and labeling those who experience them as "closed minded". I simply pointed out that the true believer might actually be the closed minded person with their absolute denial of the other outcomes regarding something as subtle as a sonic change induced by a physical treatment process adapted from other fields and based mostly on faith. I did not state cryo induced effects were pure fantasy; only that I'm doubtful because there's primarily anecdotal evidence and there are many neutral and some negative reports outcomes.
...and totally unconvincing. Poor system resolution and unskilled listener are tired old excuses that could be applied to just about anything. If the effects of cryo or any other tweak is so profound, it ought not require cutting edge 1 percenter equipment and post doc listening skills to reliably discern them.
Care to give it another shot?
I agree with that, Steve-O
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