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In Reply to: RE: Some might have a different opinion posted by tube wrangler on October 18, 2016 at 08:23:39
You didn't explain what the amp manufacturers were getting out of it. Did they secretly own shares in the tube companies? Not sure why they would bother to be part of it other wise.
Edits: 10/18/16Follow Ups:
The tube mfrs and stores SOLD the tubes, equipment mfrs were locked into
a kind of watts/per dollar quasi horsepower race.
The hotter they ran the tubes, the more power per dollar they got.
WATTS was what sold. "Higher-End" (there wasn't yet any real high-end except for movie theatres) was what "quality" mfrs did-- ran tubes less hot, and charged more $ per watt.
That was still too hot by today's standards, but fortunately, some good
tubes (Gold-Lion or Genalex KT-88 as an example) could take it.
Today we can easily do with 1/2 watt much more than they could do with 60 watts. Running tubes extra hot does force better transfer efficiency
and in some cases, linearity thru the tube in question, but today we can solve these problems by advanced wiring, layout, and lowered system resistances instead of cooking vacuum tubes trying to force super-conduction.
It's just common sense to find a way to do it right instead.
-Dennis--
"we can easily do with 1/2 watt much more than they could do with 60 watts."
Right.
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Buy Chinese. Bury freedom.
"Today we can easily do with 1/2 watt much more than they could do with 60 watts."
How? wiring transfer efficiency? 3.4146 runs of some specially selected wire, arranged in parallel, serving a high output impedance source like a 12AX7's plate?
Going back to LMAO now...
cheers,
Douglas
Friend, I would not hurt thee for the world...but thou art standing where I am about to shoot.
It all comes down to the consumer in the end. Just like with transistors vs tubes. The public believed all the bull instead of doing their own comparisons and that was the start of a long slippery slope. It is still buyer beware, and the consumer's dollars can change what the manufacturers (tube or otherwise) produce. If people won't buy it, they won't produce it.
Maybe Dennis is saying that all the design engineers, back in the day, were stupid and just went along with the tube manufacturers recommendations because they didn't know any better?
Tre'
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