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In Reply to: RE: UTC output transformers LS-63 posted by mqracing on April 16, 2015 at 11:48:59
OK...
Green 15hy
Blue 30hy
Red 60hy.
Of course L is your friend... however it doesn't come for free and I find the baggage that comes with obtaining lots of it is often not a good tradeoff.
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why are there multiple traces\loops for each color/example?
MSL
Builder of MagneQuest & Peerless transformers since 1989
They were done using a LT spice simulation by Stephie Bench and I have it set to run 20 cycles for it to stabilize. I'm sure if you configured it to run 20 cycles then sample one it would be much "cleaner"
dave
nt
Builder of MagneQuest & Peerless transformers since 1989
But we can accomplish the same by limiting the LF we ask the transformer to handle.
Tre'
Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
Hi Tre:Even with use of an input filter to limit low freq response... say you use a filter for 50 hertz... you may have dug yourself out of the worse of the misbehaviour but...
none-the-less at frequencies above this... say at 100 hertz or 200 hertz... the larger inductances are going to have narrower ellipsis (i.e., a less reactive load line) than the smaller inductances...
so there is still benefit to having more as opposed to less L.
Go back and read VoltSec's article... doing this a bit from memory.... but one of the things VoltSec showed was that even two decades above the lowest frequency shown (31.25 hz) there were still discernible differences in the loadlines at 3125 hertz due to the lower primary inductances (27H IIRC).
MSL
Builder of MagneQuest & Peerless transformers since 1989
Edits: 04/16/15
I think you missed VS's point.He was running 31.25Hz and 3125Hz at the same time and then filtering out the 31.25Hz at the output to show the IMD at 3125Hz.
If you filter out the 31.25Hz before the OPT then the IMD never happens.
"How does the low frequency load line affect the high frequencies?
As the load line varies, the tube characteristics (gain) will vary. This variation causes intermodulation distortion (IMD). To keep this example reasonable, the grid drive was set to be +/ - 25V at 31.25 Hz and +/ - 25 V at 3125 Hz. This results in a +/ - 50 V waveform at the grid of the 2A3 which is the same as what we had at just 31.25 Hz.
To see the effects of the variation in tube gain I put a buffered filter on the load to strip out the 31.25 Hz.
With 27 H, the 3125 Hz waveform is modulated by the 31.25 Hz signal. The 3125 Hz signal varies from 246.6 V peak to 225.9 V peak or 20.7 V peak to peak modulation"
BTW I use a simple 6db per octave high pass filter at 130Hz at the input of my SET amps. The idea is to keep the tube from ever traversing the nasty LF load line.
Tre'
Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
Edits: 04/16/15
Very informative thread. Thanks guys.
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