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In Reply to: RE: Absolutly! posted by gusser on January 28, 2015 at 10:27:39
Accredited science may well state the wire won't change gross parameters of performance or basic operation. Fair enough and what I would expect and pretty much know to be the truth based on my experience.
However that doesn't mean there won't be changes that can be observed by other methods. Note changes, not better, not worse. Just an observable difference. This I also know from observation, ABX or whatever from personal experience.
I also know that some people can't hear a difference and others can. But hey, everyone has differenct priorities, sensitivities and experience.
Most times I put these types of differences we're talking about here into the pot of "I can't be arsed". Doesn't mean they don't exist.
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But the observed change may have nothing to do with the physics at play in the wire.
Placebo is an observed phenomenon. So are other mental biases.
I will point out that the world electrical engineering community as a majority does not support these claims. That is evident in countless commercial products. It's only a miniscule group of audiophiles.
I don't disagree with what you say.
All I'm saying is that for some, there is a very real difference. One that can be identified in a manner that means there was no placebo or other mental issues.
Some of the differences are small. If I can't be bothered, some of the differences become inaudible to me. If I really care and put some effort in, then some of these differences are there.
I don't see what the issue here is. If this was visual identification of some aspects of an image, there would be no problem. I am rubbish at visual stuff but pretty good with audible stuff.
I wonder why that could be? Education is where it's at.
Yep.
Both positive and negative expectation effects come into play. So often you see people's experiences dismissed because of assumed placebo effects (positive expectation), yet negative effects are conveniently overlooked.
Of course, different people, cultures etc. demonstrate varying degrees of these effects. Interesting stuff.
Then there are Hawthorne and other effects...
Cheers.
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's mind there are few." Shunryo Suzuki
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