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In Reply to: RE: You poor man~nT posted by Cleantimestream on August 13, 2014 at 15:56:28
I would politely like to ask you again, to present your calculation of the ratio for copper to silver. You gave a rather definite figure for what you claim the ratio is, and I presume you are claiming to calculate that from the data for the susceptibilities for copper and silver. I am sure that if you will please present your calculation, it will clarify a lot of things.
I can assure you that I understand the principles at play here perfectly well. I also think that we are simply talking at cross purposes, so please humour me, and show how you are arriving at your ratio.
Thanks, Chris
Follow Ups:
The ratios for all substances were set up long ago as you should already Know. Silver IS one of only two natural elements {that are stable} that go 'negative'.
The following is taking applied physics and explaining to You why it matters in our real world. The following is MY opinion and not fact {although facts ARE laced through it}.
Remanence is remanent magnetization {memory in time} left behind in a ferromagnetic material after an external magnetic field has been removed.
Within an output transformer A magnetic field is constantly being created and collapsing on itself @ the speed of light... at multiple frequencies...far more data than most surmise.
Because silver repels magnetism 2.6 times better than copper and CONSEQUENTLY has remanence smaller than any other FEASIBLE element on the planet. It has the ability to deliver the e n e r g y ... and get the hell out of the way... leaving no fingerprints on the sound... so to speak. A direct coupled amplifier via SS has it's own foibles, as does OTL. Let's just say Tubes sound more organic. Do silver transformers sound superior? My ears say yes. Can the math prove it? NOPE.
Has any testing been designed to show what I already KNOW. Not yet
Do I thing that little bit of silver added on for the DAC will make a difference? I don't know, I have been gobsmacked too many times in the past to arrogantly say ... no way.
The Mind has No Firewall~ U.S. Army War College.
"Because silver repels magnetism 2.6 times better than copper"It sounds like you are now agreeing that the magnetisation in silver is larger than the magnetisation in copper, by that factor 2.6, as I was saying all along yesterday. I was very clear and precise in what I said, emphasising repeatedly that I was talking about the magnetisation.
And we can all agree, of course, that because silver and copper are diamagnetic, the magnetisation vector is antiparallel to the applied magnetic field, and thus it tends to oppose it.
Of course, the extent to which this occurs is really tiny, both in copper and in silver. But because the magnetisation in silver is larger than that in copper (by a factor of 2.6), it happens to a slightly greater extent with silver than with copper.
So, both silver and copper have an extremely small effect on the strength of the applied field, but silver has the larger effect because it is more magnetised.
The upshot is that the ratio of the magnetic field inside copper to the magnetic field inside silver is about 1.00002.
I have yet to see a proposal for why this should have any significant effect on the audio signal coming out of the DAC if silver rather than copper wires are used.
Chris
Edits: 08/14/14 08/14/14
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