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In Reply to: RE: TREBLE & BASS ONLY SETUP (NO MID-RANGE) posted by Sondek on February 01, 2017 at 18:23:14
I was just trying to think outside the box when making & listening to dubstep. I guess I'll just find some movie quality B&W speakers & a Definitive Technology subwoofer. Those were the best sounding at Best Buy when I played this Gorillaz Dubstep playlist yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR9zWPprqKFswyTeVkeBFA2YhLvLVFRr_
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So let's say this sub + tweeter arrangement sounds good to you when you listen to your dubstep creations through it, because the bass and treble are over-emphasized.
Now what happens when your music is played back through a normal system? The bass and treble will be much weaker, so it won't sound like you intended when you mixed it on your sub + tweeter system.
If you want your music to sound the way you intend on systems other than your own, you need to mix on a system with a fairly neutral or "flat" response. Of course you will want that system to have sufficient capability in the bass and treble region, but you get that by having sufficient output capability in your monitor system and then EQing your mix so that it sounds right to you. Mixing on monitors that have a baked-in over-emphasis in the highs and lows will result in JUST THE OPPOSITE when played back through a normal system.
So you want monitors that are flat with a lot of bandwidth (they go deep enough and high enough), and that have a lot of SPL capability (so that they survive what you will be putting into them).
You might want to check out the forums at gearslutz.com, link below.
I'm not a recording engineer, but I have designed and built custom monitors for award-winning studios.
Duke
Me being a dealer makes you leery?? It gets worse... I'm a manufacturer too.
I know you don't agree with my what I want my setup to be for listening to & making grimey/grungey music but i'd still like to try & see if it works. I narrowed down what I think I need to 3 tweeters & 6 compact subwoofers. Can I get your professional opinion on which ones I should get??
Here are the tweeters-
Dayton Audio AMTPRO-4 Air Motion Transformer 4 Ohm
Bohlender Graebener Neo10 Planar Transducer
Aurum Cantus G1 Ribbon
& here are the compact subwoofers-
Jamo Sub 800
Niles Audio SW6.5
Cambridge Minx x201
Sunfire Atmos XT
Velodyne MicroVee
PSB SubSeries 125
I'm not trying to tell you what to listen to for your own enjoyment.
What I'm trying to tell you is that, in my opinion, the system you've described is the wrong tool for making recordings for other people to listen to on their systems.
And I really don't have a professional opinion about which wrong tool for making recordings would be best.
So, here is my non-professional opinion, strictly in the spirit of "try it and see if it works", without overspending:
The Dayton Audio tweeter, and the least expensive subwoofer that goes up to at least 200 Hz.
You might also consider the Parts Express 8" subwoofer kit, it's pretty good bang for the buck. But you gotta paint the unfinished MDF enclosure when you're done, because raw MDF is actually not an impenetrable barrier to high pressure air.
Duke
Me being a dealer makes you leery?? It gets worse... I'm a manufacturer too.
I took your advice & decided to go with the Jamo Sub 800 that goes up to 200 Hz & the Bohlender Graebener Neo10 Planar Transducers which are tweeters with mid-range so my music may actually sound how I want it to when testing it out on regular speakers. Also their gonna be taller than my subwoofer (OLOLAWLULZXD)
It's not too pricey either because it's gonna be under $1000 at just $849.75
Edits: 02/04/17
"I took your advice"
To be clear, Duke didn't actually advise you to buy these things or to go in this direction with regard to speakers, he merely offered thoughts on which drivers might be the better ones in your misguided speaker design approach. Don't be surprised, nor blame Duke, if you blow out the tweeters.
Your right, I should have given all the credit to SpotcheckBilly12345
So I was correct, you ARE related to the bicycle trailer guy!
SB
"I really don't have a professional opinion about which wrong tool for making recordings would be best."Hahahahaha! - That's excellent!
To the OP: Creating and listening live to a "special effects" work while it is being created and performed is entirely different than recording said work and having it played back on other systems. This is like what some "avant garde" composers started doing many decades ago, such as "prepared piano" or using other traditional musical instruments to produce non-traditional sounds. I was fortunate to study and create such music under the guidance of the late Swiss composer Rainer Boesch, who himself had been a student of Olivier Messiaen and was of the Paris school of musique concrete (look it up).
So, if you want to create some dubstep or grunge music and have it sound a certain way on YOUR system, great. But, if you want to record it and have it played back on OTHER peoples' systems, then it won't sound the same, because their systems will likely be more-or-less "normal" hifi systems. So, if you want your music to sound "grungey" on other systems, you have to have a normal system for recording/monitoring/mixing in order to hear what the music will sound like on other peoples' systems. Comprende?
:)
Edits: 02/04/17
The infinity 1001A had a paper cone tweeter, a nice 12 inch woofer and a simple crossover. It worked pretty good.
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