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In Reply to: RE: Am I crazy? posted by rkeman on September 19, 2015 at 05:26:15
Rke, I agree with your ordering of priorities. Though I only recently came to that conclusion after fiercely defending the "balanced system approach" for a long time. I still feel that approach has paid off to this point, but i've reached the level where yes, investing in room treatments and better speakers would likely yield the largest improvement in sound.I can't say i'm a fan of room correction devices. I watched a friend stuff around with a DEQX for years and he was never completely happy with the results. He ended up using a Marchant active x-over I believe.
The 2 chassis tube modded Oppo players seem to do a great job reducing noise & adding some tube magic. Though a stock Oppo could use some help.
Vitus SCD025, SIA025, Oppo BPD-103AU, Magico S5's, Taoc ASR racks + SCB-RS50g, Stillpoints Ultra 6's/Mini's/LPI's, Furutech GTX-D(G), Gigawatt PC-3 SE Evo, Jorma Prime pc's + xlr's/Statement sc's/Unity pc, Siltech Classic Anniversary rcas + HDMI
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The Oppo is simply acting as a transport. It won't need a tube output or any other modification. All of the signal processing and digital to analog conversion occurs in the miniDSP. The optical digital output (Toslink) on the Oppo will provide galvanic isolation and works very well up to 24/96.
Dirac, Trinnov, Anthem Room Correction and Audyssey digital room correction have evolved into powerful tools that can make a great difference in many, if not most, listening environments. Imaging is improved and the lower registers become smoother. Hidden detail masked by room coloration emerges. There has been rapid evolution in digital room correction technology and the current offerings are well worth exploring. If the miniDSP doesn't provide an improvement, at least you'll have a better idea of where the room/loudspeaker needs improvement. Return it and continue the search. I'll wager that it won't be going back.
Ok, but i'm struggling to see how that is at all relevant to the thread question which was - Am I crazy blowing the budget on a much better pair of speakers vs upgrading to Vitus separates? This guy did & never looked back - http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue70/magico_vitus.htm
Vitus SCD025, SIA025, Oppo BPD-103AU, Magico S5's, Taoc ASR racks + SCB-RS50g, Stillpoints Ultra 6's/Mini's/LPI's, Furutech GTX-D(G), Gigawatt PC-3 SE Evo, Jorma Prime pc's + xlr's/Statement sc's/Unity pc, Siltech Classic Anniversary rcas + HDMI
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The point of suggesting electronic room correction was to offer an alternative for improving the sound to a significant degree at a much lower cost than replacing the current loudspeakers or amplification. It was never clear that only new equipment purchased from a specific dealer could be suggested. Perhaps a list of the brands carried by the dealer would help potential respondents?
Very few audiophiles have had experience either Vitus Audio or Magico products given their high cost and limited distribution, yet there have been multiple varied responses to the query. Perhaps the Vitus Audio separates are the greatest thing since sliced bread and will bring you sonic nirvana. The Magico S7 may bring the sound of angels into your midst. Whether it is crazy to blow the budget on either of these very expensive options is a question that only you can answer. Just keep in mind that there are always other choices.
Rke, you made a reasonable suggestion to consider other potentially less expensive options to improve the sound of my system, though the point I was making was that in my thread question I hadn't thrown open the question of what other options could potentially provide similar gains for less outlay. The thread question was basically comparing the option of upgrading my current SIA-025 integrated amp to Vitus separates vs upgrading to Magico S7's being a much better loudspeaker, hence I wouldn't have thought that required clarification?Some folks like playing around with EQ's and DSP's, however I wouldn't name myself as one of them. And at the level of Vitus Signature series, Magico S5/S7 and Jorma Prime/Statement, I don't think I need to. However I acknowledge that Vitus in particular has limited representation in the US. They are much better known in Europe, Hong Kong, China & Australia where they have a larger distribution network.
My sense is that investing in better loudspeakers and room treatments will bring the largest gain as one earlier respondent noted.
Vitus SCD025, SIA025, Oppo BPD-103AU, Magico S5's, Taoc ASR racks + SCB-RS50g, Stillpoints Ultra 6's/Mini's/LPI's, Furutech GTX-D(G), Gigawatt PC-3 SE Evo, Jorma Prime pc's + xlr's/Statement sc's/Unity pc, Siltech Classic Anniversary rcas + HDMI
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