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Do any of you have two systems (or at least two sets of speakers) on same side of one room? Do any of you have two systems on opposite sides of one room? I'd like to maintain my current solid state system with Wilson Sophia 2, but on occasion would like to have the option of listening to an SET system with sensitive speakers. My listening room (10 x 17 x 9) isn't wide enough to accommodate two sets of speakers on the same short wall (unless I place a second pair behind the Sophias, which may not work sonically). (Note, I've already decided against a long wall placement.)
Has anyone tried it? I do wonder what the room interaction would be like with two mirrored systems where opposing full-size speakers would only be about 8 feet apart.
Follow Ups:
..You are worrying over nothing.
Do you worry if there is one person in the room or two people in the room?
Everything is a compromise. Only you can tell if what you want to do is worth it or not. And there is only one way to know for sure.
Cheers.
Smile
Sox
why not learn what others do even if you don't follow it?
roger wang
... People have opposing speakers set up in the same room all over the world.
The fronts are used to play stereo and the rears to play multi channel or surround sound. It is nothing new.
Another pair of speakers in a room changes the volume of the room, just like if you have more people in the room or people in different positions within the room.
The best way to learn is to actually do something, you should try it one day.
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Sox
Separate but equal?
I am sure they interact( can feel the cones vibrate), and too darn difficult to remove one or the other, to gauge the degree SQ impact. Living in a small apt. one has to live with unknowns...the music makes up for it.
And the movies in surround sound. lol
I didn't think of it that way; I suppose what I am proposing is simply that - a home theater room (without video) where the inactive speakers are placed as rear speakers. Surely there are plenty of home theater rooms with four full range speakers without any audible problems.
its not a good idea to have inactive speaker/instruments/etc. in the same room. You will never be able to control the resonances.
I would not do it. Have you ever notice that a truck coming down the street makes sound that is not hampered by the walls/windows of your house.
And it doesn't matter the type of speaker design? Perhaps cover the inactive speakers with something that could minimize/eliminate resonance? For example, what would happen if the speakers are covered with, let's say, a thick curtain? Or maybe it would have other deleterious acoustic effect?
People around here will get you to the point of having to remove a trash bin from the room cause it will Helmholtz resonant and your pillows and eyeglasses will absorb and reflect.
Depends on if you want to enjoy two setups or worry over very small, rather insignificant issues with "just about anything in the room".
Relax, take few precautions and enjoy both systems.
EDP. Anyone can do anything they like...the point of these Audiophile pages is to provide information to those who would like to do anything for better sound. For those who wear glasses....sit in your favorite chair while listening to your favorite recording on your favorite system. Remove your glasses and experience a dramatic upgrade to the sound. I kid you not.
I wear 'glasses'...but have yet to hear a dramatic improvement in sound with removal.
I hear differences with cables, isolation, etc...but the 'glasses' thing just eludes me. Bugger!
All the more reason to repost my message to the original poster about watching out for the advice one can get around here, and the paralysis it can lead to.
Since I have often have worn glasses for the last 20 years, I find your suggestion of its importance in audio to be of little personal value.
As long as you don't play both systems at the same time, they won't interfere with each other and can co-habitate in the same room.
I see this kind of set-up all the time at Hi-fi shops and shows and all the systems usually sound very good (even though they are used in the same room).
I have a similar set-up myself but with the speakers on the same wall (my room is small and cramped). I play each system separately. I did find that pulling the two sets of speakers into different planes (no longer co-planar) minimized any diffraction effects from one set to the other.
When I was single, I rented a large first floor of a house. It had a 24 x 14 living room which is where I had my main rig.
Then I had a 13 x 14 dinning room next to it. On one side I had a rogue Tempest II integrated with Klipsh Lascallas. On the other side I had a Fi X with magnequest transformers with a bottlehead foreplay III preamp, Rogue tube phono preamp and a Empire 698 TT with Home made Fostex 166 le drivers in a BLH cabinet.
Everything sounded great, I had no interaction effects of other drivers in the room. But then again it was an open floor plan with about 800 square feet......I loved that little SET system and wish I never got rid of it.
You'll always need to short the positive/negative leads of the pair which is not playing.
From my own experience, even if both pairs are 5 meters apart from each other at each end of the room, the un-shorted pair not playing will cause the pair that is playing to have smaller, collapsed soundstage.
Being connected to an amplifier doesn't count.
You will need to remove the speaker cable from the speakers, and then short the positive and negative terminals with a short length of cable.
Wow, I've heard of "out there" but this is the most "out there" I've ever read.
You just won the Darwin award.
Do a search for Jerome's posts in the archives. This is pretty much par for the course. A very advanced thinker!
*LMAO* Thanks for the chuckle. :)
Sorry but at eight feet magnet strength, (unless a Goto or TAD 4001 type) is a non-issue.
But if the (non-playing) speaker is ported, better to just plug the port. If not the speaker will bounce at driver/enclosure resonant frequency. Putting a resistor across the terminals of a speaker, will change its Q of tunning frequency, but not eliminate it in same way as plugging the port.
If sealed, minor benefits at best.
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand how to short the speaker terminals. Would you mind explaining further? Thanks.
Never, ever, never short the output of an amp.
Shorting an "unused" speaker is done by bridging the positive to the negative terminals with a short piece of wire. Similar concept to biwire adapters that come with speakers to bridge positive to positive / negative to negative except you're going positive to negative which stops the voice coils from reacting to sound pressure from other speakers that are playing.
(+)------(-)
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Disclaimer!
Do not do this with an active pair connected to an amp!
I assume no liability if someone does not follow directions.
And yes, I've had multiple speakers in rotation in one system all in one room. I've also had two systems in one room like you asked about but I had the luxury of using both short wall and long wall simultaneously. One solid state and one tubed. I did have to move speakers that where in close proximity depending on which system was in use.
...and tune the room with resistors!
-reub
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