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RE: What's great is that most of them cost less than the least expensive speaker from Vivid Audio.

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Wojciech

In Reply to: RE: What's great is that most of them cost less than the least expensive speaker from Vivid Audio. posted by John Marks on January 18, 2015 at 11:49:15

Sure , once you become detached from reality stereophile fed zombie and have nothing to lose get Vivid speakers and immerse yourself in ambient of alien music .Sometimes it's worth to pay 4 times the price to realize you're an alien in need of rehab ..

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And where did you happen to audition Vivid loudspeakers? - John Marks 08:00:15 01/19/15 (7)
Just curious.

jm
- RE: And where did you happen to audition Vivid loudspeakers? - Wojciech 13:00:26 01/19/15 (6)
  I heard them (the big ones) years ago on AK fest in Detroit and also couple other shows I don't remember either RMAF or elsewhere. I know that show conditions can be far from optimal and one should not form opinion about a product based on the audition. I asked the guys who exhibited them how happy they were with the sound they were getting and they were pretty happy actually and pleased so I had no further questions. It was one of the worst high end dreck I heard to date, simply boring garbage and the speakers looked like a sad, plastic caricature of B&W Nautilus in the 5th element fashion. I was not familiar with the name so I laughed and thought that it must be some Chinese knock-off trying to capitalize on famous brand idea. Some sort of white van speakers for Detroit's rednecks. I didn't even check the price thinking it can't cost more than $2-3k ....including 300% of importer's markup.
  Now , it was some years ago. I will not miss the chance to hear them on Axpona show should they exhibit. If I change my opinion I will post my thoughts and apologies if due since I'm badmouthing them for the second time;)
  Regards, W
  - OK, at least you heard them. I had three different models on review, in my listening room, over the years - John Marks 18:46:30 01/19/15 (5)
    I got great sound out of them, and JA agreed. He measured two of them in-room.
    
    A Vivid speaker was Stereophile's Joint Product and Overall Component of the Year 2014.
    
    So, if your last hearing was years ago, the new models might appeal to you more.
    
    And I doubt that you heard a system set up by importer Philip O'Hanlon. He does great setups, and I think he has learned not to get into situations where others tie his hands and make him use equipment that does not partner well.
    
    If I came into a huge amount of money, I'd buy a nice harpsichord, buy a nice grand piano, get my violin rebuilt, and then buy some big Vivid loudspeakers--although I could easily live with great speakers from Wilson Audio, Wilson Benesch, Sonus Faber, Aerial, and others.
    
    JM
    - Vivid POTY 2014 (Open in New Window)
    - RE: OK, at least you heard them. I had three different models on review, in my listening room, over the years - Wojciech 20:10:55 01/19/15 (4)
      Well , you may be right that it might have been sub optimal setup and after first disappointment I was prejudiced. Some people supposedly can listen for the "right stuff" and judge the speakers even if the room , auxiliary equipment is sub-optimal but I'm not one of them. I'm not even that jaded and demanding. Surely, I would expect something truly special from 5 figure $$$ speakers but even then I know the reality of the market and technology restrictions. For now, I have to take your word that these are world class speakers and look forward for another audition.
      Rgrds, W
      - I think they look better in eggshell, non-gloss paint (factory photo) - John Marks 05:37:11 01/20/15 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: OK, at least you heard them. I had three different models on review, in my listening room, over the years posted by Wojciech on January 19, 2015 at 20:10:55
        
        Not my stair landing.
        
        jm
        
        RE: I think they look better in eggshell, non-gloss paint (factory photo) - A.Wayne 13:11:58 01/20/15 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I think they look better in eggshell, non-gloss paint (factory photo) posted by John Marks on January 20, 2015 at 05:37:11
        
        @ JM, Pic :
        Such a high platform will change tweeter height, listening actually will be off axis, vertically, darker presentation ...?
        
        Edits: 01/20/15
        
        Factory photo... - John Marks 15:25:19 01/20/15 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I think they look better in eggshell, non-gloss paint (factory photo) posted by A.Wayne on January 20, 2015 at 13:11:58
        
        Mostly to save the parquet floor, I had all three Vivid loudspeaker pairs as they passed through here in sequence on garden pavers from Home Depot, and I literally use a laser to set up speakers and I get measuring help when needed, and I found that at least for me, the garden pavers helped and JA did not object to them at all.
        That said, I think that, without having had an opportunity to measure, just eyeball, the G1 Giyas I spent time with at a dealer's had the tweeter a little high, while the G3 and G4 I have seen seemed to have the tweeter a little low.
        That wood block, whatever it is--redwood? cedar? juniper?--in that picture seems higher than needed to provide strain relief for inflexible speaker cables, so perhaps the intent is to raise the tweeter up.
        That speaker to me looks like a Smurf attending a costume party dressed up as a Euro sign...
        So don't go by me.
        jm
        
        Edits: 01/20/15
        
        RE: Factory photo... - collinslaw@fuse.net 15:45:15 01/20/15 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Factory photo... posted by John Marks on January 20, 2015 at 15:25:19
        
        on another note, i was watching a car show today and they were restoring a Porsche 928, that overlooked supercar from the 80s. there is not one square part or straight line on the car. that picture of the Giya made me think of that car. got to drive various ones in the day, magnificent car.
        Tom Collins

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